Lost to a Pontiac Grand Am 2000
 

After coming from a bad day, i pulled up to the light pissed, as this Pontiac Grand Am, 2000 model pulls up next to me... So he Rev'ed his engine as there was a long road ahead mostly straight with a couple of curves inbetween.... So as soon as the light turns green i floored it ... Surprised to the fact that my car took off faster than his, on the straight away he was slowly gaining on me, as we both went about 110 on the stupid road, my tires yelled as a took this turn and he slowed down, thats our P5's handling baby !!!!!! But even though it was close he pulled off in the end on the straight away. But it was a perfect way to end off the night. Plenty of fun, and dont worry this happened at 12am sharp so there were no people lives in danger excepts ours that is.
Everyone drive safely, and take precautions when street racing, dont want anyone from the boards getting killed over nothing stupid even the ones with the smart mouths :laugh: They know who they are ....

some grand am's have a v6

those grand am's have good pull, you ever try running a Jeep Cherokee of the line , lol , that is always funny, they have to much torque
Bruce

I had a Grand Am GT car club swarm me on the highway F&F style one night, the loudest one pulled up next to me and we initiated the race. From 65 - 90 (my 3rd gear) we stayed neck and neck, when I hit 4th I started walking him. This race was in my accord, and I was very impressed that a Grand Am kept up, seeing that they usually can't ;) yes, the V6 5-speeds are pretty quick when modded, but it still has a crappy ass interior/handling/performance when compared. I do like the exterior styling of it though.

grand am = bitch car and thats all i have to say about that.:D

so true, we have this idiot at school with one who always goes like 90 mph through the parking lot :rolleyes: he even came up to me one day and asked to race, I told em to buzz off.

too bad you can't get a grand am v6 with a 5-speed

I guess its not a factory option then ;) I raced one (project car) out of a local performance shop. So I assumed pontiac would atleast offer the 5-speed in their pigs they call Grand Ams :D

Grand Am GT's are nice. Really beefy interior plastics.
GM really likes body cladding? Whats with that. Not much you can do to mod the exterior of the GT. Except add a big wing :camaro:

GM engines are pretty fast, but at the same time they are really crude. They lack sophistication and refinement. I'll take a P5 over a Grand Am ANY DAY.

Grand Am
 

who said there are not mods for the Grand Am, click on my WWW and check out the blue Grand Am in my photo album it's pretty sick man, the whole interior is blue and white leather, the dash, steering wheel, everything inside, it's even got air suspension that's why it's so low, and check out my boss's car the 2.5 TL real sweet.

ya you can its the grand am GTP......

next year pontiac is realeasing a real hot version of the grandam, supposed to be supercharged, i dont know thspecs yet

there is no grand am GTP, GTP is the grand prix, a lot of people mix the two.

ah yes...me bad...how ever that one has a 3.8 litter supercarged V6

excuse me, *raises hand* all GTPs are Auto, even the big bad SC'd one way back in Max Speed (recently Max Power, now EuroCar or something like that) was Automatic, 0-60 in 5.9, in an Auto? yes, lol.


www.pontiac.com

Actually my friend has a cherokee, and it's only a little quicker than my 1.5L 2nd Gen

LMAO!! supercharged GM 3.8L V6, <-- POS!!!!

GM 3.8L V6 NA - 200HP (lots of cars)
GM 3.8L V6 SC - 240HP (Grand Prix GTP)
Ford 3.0L V6 NA - 155HP (Taurus)
Ford 3.8L V6 NA - 190HP (Mustang)
Ford 4.6L V8 NA - 220HP (lots of cars)
Chrysler 3.5L V6 NA - 244HP (intrepid)

Toyota 3.0L V6 NA - 210HP(avalon)
Toyota 3.0L I6 NA - 215HP (IS300)
Mazda 3.0L V6 NA - 200HP (MPV)
Mitsubishi 3.0L V6 NA - 200HP (eclipse)
Honda 3.2 V6 NA - 290HP (NSX costs alot more )
Honda 3.2L V6 NA - 260HP (TL Type S)
Nissan 3.5L V6 NA - 255HP (Maxima SE)
Nissan 3.5L V6 NA - 287HP (350z)
Peugeot 3.0L V6 NA - 210HP (406)
BMW 3.0L I6 NA - 225HP (330xi)
BMW 3.2L I6 NA - 333HP (M3)
VW 2.8L V6 NA - 190HP (passat)
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Ford motor company assembly plant history

hey PR5Owner

Isin't the GM S/C'd 3.8L in the old Grand Nationals????????
That was no POS engine

um...i own both a 1999 Grand Am GT and a 2002 Protege5 and there is no way that the PR5 could run with a GT at the low end... GM cars have great low end torque...

..also..older Grand Am's came with a 5-speed option, but the newer body style V6 is only available in automatic... the 4cyl. have a 5-speed option...

...the person that said that there Accord whooped a Grand Am... what year Accord and what year Grand Am??... do u have mods done to the Accord... cuz i stopped an Accord in my parents 1991 GMC Safari GT minivan (yes..GT and minivan)...

...a 3.8 S/C V-6 is a POS??... yeah...ok... i'll admit that GM hasn't been using the newest technology in their cars (that is changing by the way)... but they have been able to turn out some fast cars using the old school stuff... that's why a Z28 Camaro using a pushrod V-8 can stomp a Mustang GT that uses Ford's new 4.6L V-8

First off Mazda's are ok..I have no problem with them...But when I read about a Protawhatever kept up with a Grand am:eek: I almost had a heart attack....lets get the record straight. ALL Grand am GT's come with a V6 3.4 first of all. And SE's are come in V6 3.4's and 4 bangers 2.4's...Some of the 99-01 SE's you can get a stick...No Production GT has a stick...There is 1 but you didn't race it!! And are you sure the 3.8 SC is a POS.....Name one Mazda car that could beat it stock....Thats what I thought!! The big 0.....My Grand am will beat every single car on this board in reverse, with the parking brake on..... And I'm sorry Mommy and Daddy didn't buy you a REAL AMERICAN car:D Bye Bye now!!!

Tony

Thaks for comin to our board and Shooting your mouth off Tony, much appreciated... :wackit:

Yep!! anytime....Thanks for lying about racing a Grand Am "almost winning" and then bashing it... Much

appreciated... :rolleyes:

*cough*mommy's car*cough*

Tony

ok I can name lots of Mazda cars stock that would beat it...ummm Mazda RX-7(any 85-91 Turbo,or any 92 to present turbo or not)...Mazdaspeed Protege,Mazda RX-8,Mazda Cosmo....DON'T, I repeat DON'T come on our board and Flame...or :mach: you get shot down in flames:the finge ...btw gm doesnt make anythng like this- 1.3L TT=305 bhp...beat that beeyatch

OK boys...I'm not gonna flame here, but I want to say you gotta cool it on bashing a car before you know it. I won't agree with my fellow GA member that our cars will stomp ALL Mazda's because I personally love RX-7's. As for the others, I don't know about them. But before you go dissing all GA's and there motors (granted many of you were cool about things) please read up on the car or do a search for clubs. You want to talk smack about GA's, superchargers, yadda yadda...there aint no way in hell your beating my ride with your Protoge unless you have more invested in it than what its trade in price is. With that, here is a link to my car to see for yourself. I'm not the only GA Boost BRother, and not the fastest either. Have fun with your mods and be safe guys:cool:

http://www.n-body.net/registry/amraam4/

Don't wanna be an a$$hole but,

It kinda makes me laugh that you guys have a section dedicated to "Repairs Performed." With sub-sections (warranty work). WOW....

See what I mean, people always gotta be a dick about something!! That isn't the topic here, the topic is performance....and when your car is so far back I need frickin binoculars to see it, the God damn warranty section on N-body.net won't matter anyhow!!

Sorry to others...this guy was just being a jackass...i didn't come here to bash your cars and all you do, but rather inform you should you pull up on a GA and wonder what's up.

Ya,know I notice that cars that cant handle just talk about straight line speed...wait till I get my turbo kit...until then I bet biknman's 1.6L Turbo would smoke you on a race track...btw real race tracks mean you actually turn...so dont even talk about that NASCAR oval bullshit...and talking about trade in...holy bejeezus PONTIAC's are big POS's..trust me I know,my fiancee worked for GM buying them back because of lemon law...she says all GM's products are crap but the absolute worst of all are PONTIAC's...back to my point..I work in car finance and the only vehicles that depreciate faster than PONTIAC's are Kia's,Hyundai's,and Saturns(another crap GM product)

if all GM's are crap...how come i read in a magazine that the GM midsize N-body took the top 3 spots in build quality from JD Power & Associates... the Chevy Malibu was #1, the Olds Alero was #2, and the Pontiac Grand Am was #3... AAram didn't come on here being an ass...i thought he was very civil... also the repairs section is good cuz let's face it...all cars have problems... it's just trying to give a heads-up to fellow owners...

build quality is more about fit & finish than reliability..and when I say a car is a piece of junk,I dont mean the chassis and body isn't well put together...I mean that sooner rather than later the POS will break down on you,and more than once...I've never heard a friend or for that matter anyone say they had a POS mazda...on the other hand I;ve heard plenty say they're pontiac was crap...I'm not talking smack,just stating other people's experiences here

Exactly, the repairs section is intended to inform others of TSB's.

More to the point, I will say that I don't agree with my fellow Grand Ammer's belligerence, but I want to let you guys know that a stock grand am can pull .87 G's in the lateral skid. Now I can't spout a lot of examples of what cars do what, but that's not a strict straight-line car.

Off topic, I'll add that I'm sad to see the RX-7 go, I liked that car as well.

Where did this suff on repair and quality blow up out of a race story?? Simply put, we saw you thought GA's weren't that fast, we were here to inform you (some in different ways) otherwise, so stop changing the subject and give us props where we deserve. It's people like yourselves (some of you on this thread) that piss us off because they won't respect us, and then when we beat you heads up the name calling or excuses start. Put our info in the FYI file and leave it at that...any car can be made to beat another car to some extent...but quite frankly on a whole, our GA's can beat your Protoge's.

ever heard of the tortoise and the hare...I'll waive as I pass you GA's on the side of the highway with the hood up,now get off our boards

truth hurts doesn't it....good thing you don't represent the rest of the guys on this board because obviously your a fuckin prick in denial.

You have to be cognizant of what you say on message boards even if it is your own, because people are always lurking! Maybe if some people didn't spout off shit they had no clue on things would have been different

not in denial at all...I realize Grand Am's are faster than Protege's in general...I also realize that a Protege(even a base model) outhandles any model Grand Am any day of the week and are way more reliable than a Grand Am....so obviously you are in denial that Grand Am's are generally pieces of shit....I also get a little tired of guys with other cars joining just to post a few flames

(I'm not the flaming type) just out of curiosity, what is the lateral G rating for a protege?

If you read my posts I never joined to start flames...it was when people were stuck up assholes that I replied like that. And where is all this info anyway that Protoges are more reliable and better handling??? You might outhandle an SE, but I doubt a GT. And since most of us here are moded to begin with, I'll bet our cars with Eibachs or H&R's will outhandle you equivalently. You want to make this thread ugly, we can do that! While your at it, why don't you pick up all your shit and move over seas

well as far as handling is concerned the MP3 was in Road & Track in road test of the 10 best handling cars,in which the next closest price car was in the neighborhood of about $60K....in the slalom i think it was beat by maybe 2 cars...I believe it was a Lotus Elise and a Ferrari, but pulled a more than respectable 67+mph in the slalom...for some reason I just didnt see a Grand Am in there...also The Protege is the best handling in it's class...as far as reliability for most people all I have to say is MAZDA...but i'll spout an example...Consumer Reports has the Protege #1 best in class in reliability for 8 years running...somehow I'm guessing that the Grand Am is not a best in class in reliability...I'll go check it out..If I'm wrong fine I'll eat crow...but I dont' ever remember seeing a pontiac ANYWHERE in consumer reports as a good buy

205-size high performance rated tires with 17 in Racing Harts on a highly tuned suspension, light car, and power lacking motor....it better handle good. In fact, it better do 60 degree turns at 70

Just found some interesting info guys, it seems that the MP3 has a lateral g rating of .90, thats pretty good! I got the info here