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premdrumusr November-1st-2002 11:29 PM

don't mean to be a prick... burnt p5
 
My friend around here who has about 20-25 acres decided to build a 1/4 mile track on his land. Well it was his dad.. anyway, He has the timer and everything so my firends with their integras and civics and even a few preludes went out to play. I had my mom drive the Protege and I took my SVT Foci. We had various other vehicles there... the only thing i wanted to race that night though with my SVT was this little prick in a blue mica P5 talking crap about my Foci and how he was runnin 50-shot NOS and he can beat anything. His first mistake.. Don't tell someone like me what ur runnin under ur hood... I ran a 15.8 at Bradenton Motor Sports so I figured the P5 would burn me. Well I'm runnin all natural (no intake/exhaust). Well to make a long story short.. Auto heavier then balls P5 with 50 shot NOS still only ran a 16.9. Well.. he shut up real quick about my foci and i ran a sweet 15.789 @ 90MPH. I just wanted to let everyone who's made fun of the SVT's... You don't have to love 'em.. but at least respect 'em. 170hp naturally aspired isn't bad at all... And as for my old Pro.. hahaha 17.88 baby! wooo hooo...

redrims November-2nd-2002 03:35 AM

I don't like ppl who think NOS is the key to everything.:rolleyes: What a loser.
He definitely couldn't drive. I've read about ppl runner faster times than that w/there P5 without NOS.He really sucks, BAD.

MP5s Make Ready November-2nd-2002 09:06 AM

Yeah right, he probably didn't have any n2o at all, he probably just bought those bazooka subwoofer tubes that look like the bottles.:rolleyes:

redrims November-2nd-2002 07:13 PM


Originally posted by MP5s Make Ready
Yeah right, he probably didn't have any n2o at all, he probably just bought those bazooka subwoofer tubes that look like the bottles.:rolleyes:
Yeah, that was my guess also. I would think he would do at LEAST a second faster with NOS.
Either way, he's a loser.

premdrumusr November-2nd-2002 10:43 PM

He was def. shooting NOS through it. 50 shot isn't that big of a deal.. He was running with AEM intake and some crappy bolt-on axle-back universal muffler.. I know the SVT is slow and i'm running stock until next week. By then the Chip will be here and my AEM will be here and I'm looking forward to his rematch with the money on the line this time. I hate cocky people and I never would have been ragging on beating him right now if he didn't say my car was ugly and looked like crap. So I hope no one hates me for ragging on a P5 (but i do still have a Protege ES so i am one of you :) ) . Anyway, He thinks his 50 shot is gonna beat me again.. if he had the 5-speed he could but not with the 4-speed atuo. Well i dont think so anyway. Anyway, I'm looking forward to his rematch and hopefully I'll pocket some money on this one (I could use a turbo!). lol...

redrims November-3rd-2002 02:15 AM

I hope you beat him worse than before. I hate cocky ppl. They are so aggravating and annoying. BTW, your NOT a sellout, I understand that you had the need for speed.:D

igdrasil November-3rd-2002 07:20 AM

what an ass
 
Me, with NO N.O.S. did 16.9 stock!!!
A friend of mine, with 50-shot N.O.S. did 14.2

so.....if he did 16.9 with 50-shot N.O.S, he just ridiculous, that what I call RICE too..., think about...whats his time without NOS? 19.5??????????

king_girliegirl November-3rd-2002 10:37 AM

Congrads on beating the P5 man, that's pretty good. I personally don't really care for the SVT's, but Ihave to admit they are pretty quick. There is a black one that use to always come out to the races with us up here. He wouldn't tell anyone what all was done to his car, but I'm guessing he had a chip. He was spanking alot of people out at the races, but I have to brag I did beat him driving my boys 2002 ES. I thought the poor guy was going to cry cause I crushed his bragging rights. I was a good race though.

project626 November-4th-2002 08:45 AM

A fool once said, " I need one of those, one of the big ones, No, wait. Let's make it Two"

:D :D :D :D :D

redrims November-4th-2002 06:36 PM

Jeeze! I thought the "Fast N the Furious" quotes were over.:D Guess not. MONICAAAAAAAAAA!

soma November-4th-2002 06:57 PM

the loser in the p5 probably thought that NOS was the octane boosts you buy at Canadian Tire for $12 a bottle....you know if you send in the UPC, they give you a free NOS hat:D

redrims November-5th-2002 01:09 AM

Yeah, I use that stuff every once in a while. It adds 75hp.:D

soma November-5th-2002 09:05 AM

Go Go Rocket P5:D

premdrumusr November-5th-2002 06:03 PM


so.....if he did 16.9 with 50-shot N.O.S, he just ridiculous, that what I call RICE too..., think about...whats his time without NOS? 19.5??????????
LOL well you have to understand.. He has an auto and well.. i must the autos on these protege's just suck balls. Since the autos are only 4 speed the last two gears are too damn loooooooong.... emphasis on the looooooong... I hated my protege cause the auto, even if i did add turbo, i woudn't be able to pull the max power out of the engine. It needed at least one more gear. And this fool I raced it was exactly like in the 'Fast in the Furious' when jesse and tran ran at race wars.. he pulled that NOS too soon.. half way through 2nd he dropped it in.. i quickshifted into 3rd (and i have crappy shifting) and burnt him all over the track.. it was over by the time i hit 4th... he was done and there we had it.. 15.8 vs. his 16.9. But we'll see what he can pull this friday.. let's see if my crappy shifting can pull him again.. I hope i can.. but i don't wanna break my baby either.. i mean only 2200 miles.. i gotta be careful :evilgrin: I'll update everyone after we race again.

Pigeon November-16th-2002 08:12 AM

um...
i dont think you can use the nitrous too soon....
in automatics, u can activate it in first gear and have it on for the whole run...


but either way i hate people that think theyre cars are so fast when they have nitrous

soon as their bottle is empty, theyre back to being a 19 second car or whatever they were to start off with

maybe if they were a 14 second car, and used nitrous to get themselves to 13 it would be more respectable

Elchulo November-18th-2002 02:09 PM


Originally posted by Pigeon

but either way i hate people that think theyre cars are so fast when they have nitrous

soon as their bottle is empty, theyre back to being a 19 second car or whatever they were to start off with


Bitter???? LOL

:D :D

Pigeon November-18th-2002 05:53 PM

yea, i was a bit
sorry

Elchulo November-18th-2002 06:45 PM


Originally posted by Pigeon
yea, i was a bit
sorry

It's all good dude, I feel your pain. You know something that's worse??? I dick that doesn't wanna admit that his shit has nitrous.
Happened to me. I pulled off a neon twice. Then we get to another light, it goes green and I start pulling agian.... all of a sudden he flies by me like he grew two more cylinders. We pull over and he's gonna tell me that his shit is all motor, no nitrous. I told him to fuck off with that bullshit....

Pigeon November-18th-2002 10:00 PM

see man, i dont wanna knock anyone that has nitrous...

but since that movie man, its too much...
people running around calling it nos, thinkin theyre the shit..
like with that neon u raced....

if you have the need for speed, and not much cash..
go for it...

but dont get all cocky thinking ur cars the greatest cause u got a 10 pound bottle of a special gas in ur trunk

Elchulo November-18th-2002 10:35 PM


Originally posted by Pigeon
see man, i dont wanna knock anyone that has nitrous...

but since that movie man, its too much...
people running around calling it nos, thinkin theyre the shit..
like with that neon u raced....

if you have the need for speed, and not much cash..
go for it...

but dont get all cocky thinking ur cars the greatest cause u got a 10 pound bottle of a special gas in ur trunk

Amen!

B8 Turbo November-21st-2002 09:39 PM


Originally posted by redrims
Jeeze! I thought the "Fast N the Furious" quotes were over.:D Guess not. MONICAAAAAAAAAA!
Whakhakhakhak.......
"What's your problem niggar?? You didn't win!" disgusted Monica walked off.
Whahahahahahah

B8 Turbo November-21st-2002 09:48 PM


Originally posted by Pigeon
see man, i dont wanna knock anyone that has nitrous...

but since that movie man, its too much...
people running around calling it nos, thinkin theyre the shit..
like with that neon u raced....

if you have the need for speed, and not much cash..
go for it...

but dont get all cocky thinking ur cars the greatest cause u got a 10 pound bottle of a special gas in ur trunk

It's better to be a sleeper. I'm a sleeper. No sticker, emblems, nothin'!!! I'm as humble as can be until "Wham Bam." Check out my ride if you wanna find out. I personally don't like to brag especially if I don't have the it. Even if I have it, I would keep it "silent nite, holy nite" ooppsss wrong song; I mean like the Knight Rider.:D

Pigeon November-21st-2002 10:57 PM

impressive my friend!

redrims November-22nd-2002 12:10 AM


Originally posted by Pigeon
impressive my friend!
:withstupi
Yeah, you have one sweet ride my friend.

I haven't had time to put pics on my cardomain page.

BTW, how do you put a picture as a back ground on cardomain.

Mach 1 November-30th-2002 10:37 PM

Wow, how depressing. I just sold my 12 second mustang and bought a Protege ES, and now im reading about 17 and 19 second ricers racing each other and about how one is a sleeper?

newsflash...all 4 cylinder cars are sleepers..:)

ok, I think Ill leave now. This Mazda site shouldnt even have a "racing" section"......

redrims November-30th-2002 11:24 PM


Originally posted by Mach 1
Wow, how depressing. I just sold my 12 second mustang and bought a Protege ES, and now im reading about 17 and 19 second ricers racing each other and about how one is a sleeper?

newsflash...all 4 cylinder cars are sleepers..:)

ok, I think Ill leave now. This Mazda site shouldnt even have a "racing" section"......

Actually, we do have quite a bit of 13s and 14s protege's in this club.

17-19s is stock. If you noticed a handful of people didn't keep there car stock. Such as Turboge, Biknman, B8Turbo, and Linuxnija. I know there are a lot more ppl too.

B8 Turbo December-1st-2002 07:44 PM


Originally posted by redrims
Actually, we do have quite a bit of 13s and 14s protege's in this club.

17-19s is stock. If you noticed a handful of people didn't keep there car stock. Such as Turboge, Biknman, B8 Turbo, and Linuxnija. I know there are a lot more ppl too.

Thanks Redrims for metioning my name. The Import scene has gained quite a respectable and formidable reputation in the East & West coast nowadays compared to the mid-90s. Many car enthusiasts are joining the band wagon in the import drag racing with the tiny 1.6/1.8L imports. The all-motor section is already doing 12s or 13s. The turbocharged imports are running as low as 10s or 9s. Turbo magazine is dedicated to these types of cars.
Check it out Mach 1. There should be some good encouragement in the magazine. FYI, protege has many good potentials. Just check out my ride as linked in my signature.

Mach 1 December-2nd-2002 11:34 AM


Originally posted by B8 Turbo
Thanks Redrims for metioning my name. The Import scene has gained quite a respectable and formidable reputation in the East & West coast nowadays compared to the mid-90s. Many car enthusiasts are joining the band wagon in the import drag racing with the tiny 1.6/1.8L imports. The all-motor section is already doing 12s or 13s. The turbocharged imports are running as low as 10s or 9s. Turbo magazine is dedicated to these types of cars.
Check it out Mach 1. There should be some good encouragement in the magazine. FYI, protege has many good potentials. Just check out my ride as linked in my signature.

I realize everything you say, and was just making a general comment. I didnt spend a lot of time in the "street racing" section on the website, but was disapointed in the crap I was reading. I shouldnt have been surprised though, most website "street racing" sections are disapointing, no matter what the make of car. It just seems all the more ridiculous to me to hear people street racing their proteges....but I guess I have to realize that people will race anything on the street, no matter how slow it is.

B8turbo- i will check out your ride. I am interested in what it takes to make on of these cars a 13 or 14 second car.

Pigeon December-2nd-2002 06:30 PM

it seems like ur indirectly cutting our cars up....

B8 Turbo December-2nd-2002 06:54 PM


Originally posted by Mach 1
I realize everything you say, and was just making a general comment. I didnt spend a lot of time in the "street racing" section on the website, but was disapointed in the crap I was reading. I shouldnt have been surprised though, most website "street racing" sections are disapointing, no matter what the make of car. It just seems all the more ridiculous to me to hear people street racing their proteges....but I guess I have to realize that people will race anything on the street, no matter how slow it is.

B8turbo- i will check out your ride. I am interested in what it takes to make on of these cars a 13 or 14 second car.

Mach 1, if I could read up on Honda cars in this Malaysian site, you'll see that the racing stories are even more ridiculous. Over here, each group of ppl boast & brag to each other about their racing stories. This is the typical Malaysian style. I didn't wanna say Asian cuz then everybody will be jumpin' on my a$$.
Anyway, Turboage and a lot of other ppl are good consultants to making a 12 or 13s Proteges. Ask them first cuz I'm a newbie.

B8 Turbo December-2nd-2002 07:03 PM


Originally posted by Pigeon
it seems like ur indirectly cutting our cars up....
Pigeon, am not quite sure what you mean by that?

Pigeon December-2nd-2002 08:30 PM

"This Mazda site shouldnt even have a "racing" section"......"

"newsflash...all 4 cylinder cars are sleepers"

"It just seems all the more ridiculous to me to hear people street racing their proteges....but I guess I have to realize that people will race anything on the street, no matter how slow it is."

those comments seem kinda harsh.....
but i dont know if he meant to sound like that...

redrims December-2nd-2002 11:43 PM

ANY car can be built to go fast Mach1. You should know that. My friends '87 GTI can beat basically any Mustang that comes up against him. Except for a Cobra though, but he'll give it a run for there money. He has about 250hp to the wheel in that tiny little 2dr hatch.

You really need to go to the track more and get up to date.

Imports are now hitting mid single digits in a 1/4 mile now. A record that I think was broken this year. At the track I usually go to, there are usually more little imports than muscle cars.

Mach 1 December-3rd-2002 02:56 AM


Originally posted by Pigeon
"This Mazda site shouldnt even have a "racing" section"......"

"newsflash...all 4 cylinder cars are sleepers"

"It just seems all the more ridiculous to me to hear people street racing their proteges....but I guess I have to realize that people will race anything on the street, no matter how slow it is."

those comments seem kinda harsh.....
but i dont know if he meant to sound like that...

I didnt mean to sound harsh, offend anyone, or cut up anyones car. Im just stateing the obvious, proteges are economy cars, and slow cars. I know people can make them fast, but when you need a turbo to get into the 14s, thats not fast, and not economical(turbos are expensive and maintenance intensive).

I like the protege for what it is, and if someone wants to try to make it fast, I respect that.

But when I read lame ass stories in the street racing section, it is disapointing. Im just not used to reading about hondas and neons racing proteges, and im a bit surprised. No offense, but I have a V8 background, and when I talk about racing on the street, I think of 12 second mustangs and camaros.

I know the import guys like to street race also, but Im just getting used to the concept of worrying about the honda next to me. Its not a concern when your driving a moddified mustang.

Mach 1 December-3rd-2002 03:03 AM


Originally posted by redrims
ANY car can be built to go fast Mach1. You should know that. My friends '87 GTI can beat basically any Mustang that comes up against him. Except for a Cobra though, but he'll give it a run for there money. He has about 250hp to the wheel in that tiny little 2dr hatch.

You really need to go to the track more and get up to date.

Imports are now hitting mid single digits in a 1/4 mile now. A record that I think was broken this year. At the track I usually go to, there are usually more little imports than muscle cars.

If your freinds GTI is beating any mustang that comes up against him, he is racing slow, stock, or mustangs driven by poor drivers.

There are a LOT of VERY FAST mustangs on the road, but apparently he isnt running into those ones. Most "mature" guys with well built stangs wont even waste thier time racing a car like a GTI. Some kid with flowmasters, sure, and I dont doubt he can handle them fairly easily.

I am up to date and I know whats out there. I dont think you can really disagree with anything I have said?

Im not knocking proteges, just think its a bit silly to go racing in one, with the few exceptions of the well moddified ones out there, and there are very few of them.

B8 Turbo December-3rd-2002 04:11 AM


Originally posted by Mach 1
If your freinds GTI is beating any mustang that comes up against him, he is racing slow, stock, or mustangs driven by poor drivers.
There are a LOT of VERY FAST mustangs on the road, but apparently he isnt running into those ones. Most "mature" guys with well built stangs wont even waste thier time racing a car like a GTI. Some kid with flowmasters, sure, and I dont doubt he can handle them fairly easily.
I am up to date and I know whats out there. I dont think you can really disagree with anything I have said?
Im not knocking proteges, just think its a bit silly to go racing in one, with the few exceptions of the well moddified ones out there, and there are very few of them.

Just to be on the neutral side, everybody's gotta right to express themselves. After all, you guys are livin' in the land of the free. Anyway, some ppl may express with different words to mean a certain thing, harsh or not harsh, and then others will have their own interpretation! Guys, these are very subjective. Mach 1, though not defending, would feel degraded from stang to protege and he's just expressing the difference he felt. Again, I'm not taking sides, but his feelings must be respected to a certain level. There is no crime in freedom of expression but sometimes we have to be conscious of other sensitive guys. Hmmm...guys have a sensitive side when talking about cars?!! Out in the tangent.

Last but not least, let's all make up and not continue with these bickering. Compromise ppl.....compromise. Don't let words ruin some discussion here in this forum. If those who want to continue to be a "prick", just leave them alone.

Finally and again not taking sides, Mach 1 has sorta apologize about his words and explained that he meant no harm. So let's all get off his back and carry on with some meaningful discussion.
Ok thank y'all for your attention.

Pigeon December-3rd-2002 10:04 AM

yea, thats fine
he clarified it

i was just wondering if he was trying to be sarcastic or not
but he wasnt
its all good

i understand where hes coming from

i took my protege to the drag strip, but i mean, i was the 3rd slowest one there....
so he is right in that aspect....

but the area where a protege can shine for its light weight, and nimbleness is on an autocross course..
thats the kinda of racing that ive started to get into
and the proteges can hold their own

lots of people on this board participate in autocrosses

redrims December-3rd-2002 04:48 PM


Originally posted by Mach 1


If your freinds GTI is beating any mustang that comes up against him, he is racing slow, stock, or mustangs driven by poor drivers.

There are a LOT of VERY FAST mustangs on the road, but apparently he isnt running into those ones. Most "mature" guys with well built stangs wont even waste thier time racing a car like a GTI. Some kid with flowmasters, sure, and I dont doubt he can handle them fairly easily.

I am up to date and I know whats out there. I dont think you can really disagree with anything I have said?

Im not knocking proteges, just think its a bit silly to go racing in one, with the few exceptions of the well moddified ones out there, and there are very few of them.


What? My friends GTI is fast as shit.(no rudeness meant) He doesn't even waste his time on STOCK Mustangs. He races against cars he know will give him a challenge. If he races a Mustang, I can guarantee you its not stock. I just threw Mustang in there as an example. I have yet to see him lose a street race, but he hasn't raced cars like Vipers yet, which I know he will be doing soon once he do more mods. Right now his car is NA and he said that he's still doing a lot more work.

YOU REALLY NEED TO MAKE PLANS TO GO TO A TRACK VERY SOON.
You have to see what typr have cars people are using now. I've even seen 13s Hyandai Accents.

BTW, I know a lot of civcs that can smoke your 12 second Mustang. I'm not sure what my friend 1/4 mile is in his GTI since he recently did more mods, but I'm guessing high 12s or low 13s.

Just to clear things up, the Mustang is my favorite muscle. I love them. This mechanic who worked right beside my friends shop has a Mustang the runs 9secs.

Mach 1 December-3rd-2002 06:46 PM

An naturally aspirated VW GTI that runs high 12's in the quarter mile? Has this actually been proven or are u speculating?

And the mustangs Im referring to will easily beat a high 12 secong car on the street, so your obviously referring to "mildly modifed" ones. A extremly mildly modified stang can run high 13;s easy.

How exactly can you guarantee that he doesnt race stock mustangs? Does he do a red light "pre-race" check out of the car? Hmm.....

stocker December-3rd-2002 11:01 PM

I personally wish people would stop confusing "racing" with dragging. Sure its silly to drag a stock or mildly modded protege. A friend of mine at work "races" his civic. This guy spent 5000 (total) canadian on a 97 civic, engine and suspension upgrades, then goes to the track and routinely hands beamers, rx-7s celica's etc their ass. He races. The guy knows how to drive, period.

Hell give me a chev celebrity, a peice of string and a brick and I will beat 90 percent of the proteges on this board without even being in the car.

But like any small import you can turn a protege into a pretty nice little autox or track car for not alot of money. Plus the thrills last longer on the track. I personally don't like to live my life a 1/4 mile at a time. It's boring.
(mandatory F&F quote)
:p

Stocker.


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