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SDRob January-21st-2003 11:22 PM

1.5L vs riced-out Neon
 
So I got this little shit that lives down my street right. He's got an older Neon, lowered w. exhaust and a big 'ol wing on the back. I don't like the kid 'cause he's always hauling ass up and down the street, there's kids around too. Anyways, me and 3 of my friends are on our way to the bar in my car, 1 girl and 2 guys. I go past this kid's house and he backs out right behind me, and we get to a stoplight waiting to turn left onto a 4-lane st. Of course he's on my ass and I'm like whatever.
Light turns green and I pull out real slow, he's right on my ass of course. I see him shift over to the right to pass and that's when I floored it in 2nd. He floors it as well and he's right on my back right fender. I rev high and shift to 3rd, now he's on my back bumper. I take 3rd to about 60mph before I shift to 4th and proceeded to dust him. Mind you I have a 1.5L with NO mods and 3 other people in the car. Him by himself in his riced out p.o.s. Neon. Kids!

redrims January-22nd-2003 02:35 AM

Good kill. Having rice for a late night snake:p

Identity_X January-22nd-2003 04:36 PM

why pick on Neons?:rolleyes:

David January-22nd-2003 08:47 PM

:bsflag:

sorry but even if he has an auto he should win. If he did lose then he has a stick and he missed a shift.

Scarmiglio January-22nd-2003 09:33 PM

Maybe he blew a head gasket. Happens all the time with Neons I hear. :D

SDRob January-22nd-2003 09:39 PM

Maybe he "shoulda" won, but he didn't. Maybe he "should've" not mis-shifted, but he might have. Maybe I "shouldn't" have won, but I did. Give a 1.5L a little credit.

redrims January-23rd-2003 03:15 AM


Originally posted by SDRob
Give a 1.5L a little credit.

What he said.^

Bruce95fmla January-24th-2003 11:52 AM


Originally posted by David
:bsflag:

sorry but even if he has an auto he should win. If he did lose then he has a stick and he missed a shift.

don't uderestimate the 1.5L from a rolling start the car can run with the best of them ..... especially when you are above 3 grand ... and I do believe him
bruce

Green Skanka February-19th-2003 01:08 AM

it all depends on the driver. Cause i can technically say i beat my buddy's Si. but he was on the phone at the light and went into 1st really slow and it was only like 80ft. to the next light. But then at that light i kept up with him in 1st. till his v-tec kicked in, then he was gone

asobersiii February-25th-2003 11:31 AM

neons
 
A neon can be pretty quick remember they have a stock dohc cam engine. As a matter of fact a buddy of mine told me that the eclispe and the neon have the same engine. My sister had a neon I drove it a couple of times and raced her in my duster If I had down shifted she would have beeten me ( believe it or not). So don't sleep on the neons, with the right driver they can run with the best of them.

midnightblue97 February-25th-2003 02:50 PM

Re: neons
 

Originally posted by asobersiii
A neon can be pretty quick remember they have a stock dohc cam engine. As a matter of fact a buddy of mine told me that the eclispe and the neon have the same engine. My sister had a neon I drove it a couple of times and raced her in my duster If I had down shifted she would have beeten me ( believe it or not). So don't sleep on the neons, with the right driver they can run with the best of them.
I'm almost positive that the Neon and Eclipse DON'T share the same engine.

MazdaMan79 February-25th-2003 05:38 PM

Re: 1.5L vs riced-out Neon
 

Originally posted by SDRob
I go past this kid's house and he backs out right behind me, and we get to a stoplight waiting to turn left onto a 4-lane st. Of course he's on my ass and I'm like whatever.
Light turns green and I pull out real slow, he's right on my ass of course. I see him shift over to the right to pass and that's when I floored it in 2nd. He floors it as well and he's right on my back right fender.

So technically you had a cars length start on him! Yeah...about that...

Peace

protege563028 February-26th-2003 08:06 AM

Unfortunatley what people don't understand is that stickers and wings do not make you car faster. Either way you it is still a Dodge P.O.S. and nothing more. There is a guy in my neighborhood with a neon sporting the stupidist freggin' stickers like "FRAM" and "Champion Plugs". Little does he know parts like this can be bought at Wal-Mart and I don't think that it is anything to be bragging about. As for the wing on a front wheel drive car shouldn't the wing be in front therefore pushing the front end down (the end that needs the traction) wouldn't a wing in the back just lift the front end, and can a neon even go fast enough to make a wing do it's job. Either way Dodge SUX and way to kick some ass.


;pee;
DODGE

P-R-O-T-E-G-E February-26th-2003 12:40 PM

Neons
 
Hey good job on leaving that Neon. You can not sleep on the little Neon's 1.9l engine. It has a surprising bit of punch if you have a talented driver. My mom used to have one and trust me 120mph came quick!! I still like my protege better personally! But if read my Quote it all becomes perfectly clear. If you decide to race and you can't keep up....oh well!! :D

MazdaMadness February-26th-2003 03:28 PM


Originally posted by Identity_X
why pick on Neons?:rolleyes:
neon picked on him!

TheLastMarauder February-26th-2003 11:31 PM

yeah, it all depends on the driver. Like, I beat this porsche 911 turbo... only, the 80-year-old driver wasn't at all racing. lol

demoninvictus February-27th-2003 12:21 AM

technicalities
 
EDIT : CORRECTION!!

I was thinking of the 95's then, why i thought there was a 94, not too sure, but the cam configurations is the difference in the horsepower. didn't do my research well enough

(ignore my spelling and grammer in this post, i'm too ignorant and tired to care)

ok, lets say we were dealing with a 95 neon.. a 95 dodge neon highline coupe... you're dealing with a 2.0 litre engine, not to sure about the cam availability on the 95's, but i know the 94's had an sohc and dohc model. the 95 had two separate engines, both 2.0 litres... and i think the degree of separation isn't the size of the engine obviously, or the fuel management, but the cam configurations. not only is a neon's engine slightly bigger (i'm just saying, of that year), but the lower version of the engine is 131hp with 128 foot pounds of torque going to the wheels... and the other engine is rated at 150hp with 135 foot pounds of torque going to the wheels. take into consideration. only thing i could think of is that if he's running an auto, he's only got three gears, then you could probably take him out... with a 5 speed manual, i don't think you'd stand a chance, no offense. what do you have... bout 105 hp? shit buddy, mofo would own me. although, the wing... no, thats gotta go, a little spoiler is 'sporty' on imports, but wings make no aerodynamic sense, it's just cosmetic and counterproductive in some circumstances. hey, actually, come to think of it, do you think i could boost any horsepower if i put a wing on my pro? huh? :rolleyes:

oh yeah, and as mentioned, driver skill is the most important factor in racing. i've seen 16 year olds that drive like the wind, but can't shift for shit (ie grinding out gears and acting like they drive a formula car)

EDIT: a 95 sohc /w 131 hp was to be my first car, but dealer couldn't clear up an oil leak, so i got my pro :)

asobersiii February-27th-2003 11:30 AM

neon
 
my sister's neon was a 98, make sure it is an aluminum wing

midnightblue97 February-27th-2003 06:04 PM

Neons came out in 95, they've always had a 2litre DOHC. The only difference was that one had 132hp the other 150.
I read an article in Motor Trend or Car and Driver or one of those and apparently they had Identical performance numbers.

demoninvictus February-28th-2003 03:08 AM

they've always had the dohc, but sohc was also a standard option... information on this can be found at http://www.neons.org/faq/FAQ_M.html you can see lists and packages, they did offer the sohc and the dohc models since the inception... thus i would believe is the power difference


check out this neon... sohc by the way

http://www.autotrader.com/findacar/v...ar=1983&color=

midnightblue97 February-28th-2003 12:41 PM

I stand corrected.

Scarmiglio March-1st-2003 11:29 AM

There is no longer a 2.0 DOHC available in the Neon.

Bankie March-9th-2003 08:17 PM

1st Gen Neons with the DOHC MTX combo usually run 15.7 in the 1/4 stock. A CAI can drop that to the 15.3 - 15.4 range. The SOHCs run low 16s. I'd say the guy in the neon was a just a bad driver. Good kill anyways. :cool:

ImportUnlimited March-11th-2003 02:35 PM

wing on front wheel drive
 
actually FWD can benefit from a wing, only at high speeds though. wing adds stability to the back of the car, keeps it from fishtailing at high speeds, the front end almost never needs a wing, as the front of the car makes plenty of downforce. but the rear sometimes (only, ONLY at high speeds) would benefit from a wing, as it will loose stability in the rear of the car due to not enough air blowing on the trunk lid.

pro00 March-11th-2003 06:25 PM

Yeah, in the end, it all comes down on the
driver of the car, but hey

you killed him, and I congratulate you on that

Keep it up!:D


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