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Pro_fan Jan 28, 2003 09:39 AM

I don't think closing the thread solves anything. Perhaps deleting the offending posts would be more useful.

I think what everybody needs to see is this "real news" article claiming all land animals came from the aardvark. I find this incredibly hard to believe as the statement made by protegeboy78 would indicate that humans, elephants, giraffes, koalas, etc, etc came from the aardvark. Going further back, if ALL land animals came from the aardvark, that would mean dinosaurs, crocodiles, wolly mammoths, etc, etc also came from the aardvark.
From an evolutionary standpoint, this is completely ridiculous. The onus is on protegeboy78 to show us all his evidence.

kc5zom Jan 28, 2003 11:38 AM

Agreed. But I think Eggnatey needs to chill out.

eggynatey Jan 28, 2003 11:41 AM

I'm finished ranting. I'm just not gonna let some kook put me down without a retort. Or two.

alcoholiday Jan 28, 2003 01:05 PM

we descended from ostriches..... heads in the sand.

fossil boy Jan 28, 2003 02:35 PM


Originally posted by arl240
Some would retort that full believers in science are afraid of what they don't understand and can't control. The less spiritual reject the idea of a controlling force and try and pin nature down with rules which are easily explained.

Hell, I know these rules are very useful in daily life, but science is pretty useless in explaining the deeper philsophies associated with man. Religion can be greatly comforting, unlike the cold touch of science.

Mystery stuff rules!

:cool:

Good job, arl240! You pose a rational argument instead of emotional strife. Thanks.
Believe it or not, I agree with about 80% of above.
I would suggest, however, that that Science is not necessarily afraid of the unexplained - more likely just frustrated!
You see, I feel that most humans fear the unknown, which is why religion/spirituality fills the void of the knowledge gap. Whether there is or isn't a higher power is not a goal of science. Rather, most workers seek only to understand processes, physical relationships, past events and perhaps, future preditions.
The combative attitude occasionally encountered stems mainly from fundamentalist elements that refuse to allow the free discourse and exchange of knowledge. It makes no sense to cling to the idea that earth was formed a mere 6000 years ago, or that biologic systems have remained stagnant throughout millenia. These two examples have, IMO, no bearing whatsoever on whether a higher power exists, and yet the argument persists.
As I indicated earlier, Darwin was religious as well. And apparently, he was quite in awe of the of the magnificent machine his god set in motion.
It is truly a shame that movements within the US seek to have Creationism integrated into public schools. Certainly no one would dare mandate churches to teach evolution.

Pro_fan Jan 28, 2003 04:56 PM

I think I found what protegeboy78 was attempting to talk about when he started this thread:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2676377.stm

However, take note....the article describes NOTHING like he stated in the initial post of this thread.


What is clear is that we are "not in the least bit like aardvarks". However, like all mammals that bear live young, we once shared a common bond.

jlanger Jan 28, 2003 08:36 PM

Well finally some proof! We are not directly related to aardvarks but share a common ancestor, if one went back far enough one could find a common ancestor with snakes, cockroaches and even plants. We still do have similar genes even with plants. Kinda interesting but the genetic record seems to back up evolution that things are built on one another.

midnightblue97 Jan 28, 2003 09:19 PM

every living thing on earth has a common ancestor. SINGLE CELLED ORGANISMS

David Jan 28, 2003 09:20 PM

I like this.

Look I’ve had my fights with fossil boy but he is ok in my book. I don’t like his politics and I think his is a flaming lib but his is still ok. Now eggynatey I read that you came from a shitty area so what! Look I go to church almost every Sunday and I would not say half the thing you have said. So he is not a Christian, who are you to judge? Maybe you did not read his post yes he can come across as a giant ass but he can back up what he said. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it.My god I sound like my mother. One last thing eggynatey maybe you should take a few days off work and read the good book. You can read, can’t you?

eggynatey Jan 29, 2003 01:53 PM

I'm biting my tongue.
He shows me the special olympics poster, then tries to fire me up.

fossil boy Jan 29, 2003 02:40 PM

disclaimer: the following contains a quote from another thread!

Originally posted by eggynatey
I can't find any pictures of foxy, but I've already pissed everyone off on the "aardvark" thread, so I'll just take your word for it. Sorry if I came across as a dick.

*** In light of the above, I'm glad to see the following: ***

I'm biting my tongue.
He shows me the special olympics poster, then tries to fire me up.

I think the only one who was pissed around here was you. Relax a bit before you react; this Forum can get rather harsh at times.
You claimed I "personally attacked" you, initially. But really, all I did was make a subtle joke. There's a huge difference between the two. Get used to it; other folks here aren't nearly as kind as me!

itzkcatz Jan 29, 2003 02:42 PM

Sorry, Didn't mean to throw a rock in the Bees nest ..Jon

eggynatey Jan 29, 2003 02:47 PM

Let's just go ahead and start a "pick on natey" thread!
That way, I won't have to scroll all the way down here to read your guys' smack-talk.
I can't believe fossil boy quoted me from a different thread.

Pro_fan Jan 29, 2003 03:32 PM

:tear:

Where would you like your pity party to take place?
This "smack talk" has nothing to do with this thread. If you have issues with somebody, I suggest PMing them so we don't have to watch your personal soap opera unfold.

In regards to this thread, I think the "answer" has been found. Basically, protegeboy78 got the facts all wrong. As fun as the whole religion vs. science was, I'd say this thread is done.

eggynatey Jan 29, 2003 03:54 PM

Here we go again.
FUCK YOU PRO-FAN!
I don't want your chintzy pity, you fuck.
It doesn't matter how the shit-talking originates, I don't like it and I'll reply EVERY TIME.
So fuck off. Maggot.


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