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bazooka joe May 9, 2003 12:05 PM

TP5, i'm real serious about a turbo for my p5. i've got the cash so that's not a problem...i've got to tell you, the hiboost looks real good to me! i wasn't real sure about spoolin, although terry has been great, and now with the back order issus??? i was leaning towards the flying miata, but i've got an auto and their having issues with auto trannies. hiboost is available in 3 weeks and can handle the auto issue and it's the complete kit!!...so i'm like real tempted, but i don't want to be the "test" case...of course if hiboost wants to cut me a deal (ha, ha)....anyway. how far away are your from making the leap??what are your concerns at this point? the warrenty and insurance don't concern me to much...thanks, joe!:)

YP5 Toronto May 9, 2003 12:42 PM

I assume TP5 = YP5...lol


I wouldn't be too worried about the "test" vechicle...I truely believe that the kit is quite sound and very complete. The fact that they have the first ECU systems speaks volumes in my opinion. Moreover, if there are any changes to the setup, I'm sure that by having a programable ECU, changes can be easily made.

As for me...I have been battling this issue for nerely 8 months. I have done my research and understand all the pros and cons. The thing that is holding me back is how this will effect my insurance rates.

Ontario Canada is facing a crack down on aftermarket scene as a result of "street racing". So insurance companies are becoming really tough on modified cars. I'm 28, semi-good record and my car is not yet fully paid off.

I have decided (not 100%) to forgo the turbo system this season and re-visit the idea next summer. This summer I will work on more cosemetics and my audio system...things that won't get me into trouble with my insurance. Many of you can understand that I am hurting so bad...because I trully want a car that "goes" and not just "shows".

PepiMartinez May 9, 2003 02:26 PM

Completely understand about the insurance situation. So many companies have moved out of Jeresy, which means fewer companies to go around, which means price goes up. PLUS, I'm 18, and it'll be a while till I get a decent insurance cut. The regular insurance on a P5 isn't bad, but if you toss something aftermarket in it, watch out.

Pepi Martinez

eeterp May 9, 2003 03:47 PM


Originally posted by YP5 Toronto
I assume TP5 = YP5...lol


I wouldn't be too worried about the "test" vechicle...I truely believe that the kit is quite sound and very complete. The fact that they have the first ECU systems speaks volumes in my opinion. Moreover, if there are any changes to the setup, I'm sure that by having a programable ECU, changes can be easily made.

I question the injector duty cycle they're CLAIMING on their dyno runs. The Hiboost kit may be a quality product but, that 70% or whatever it was doesn't sound right.

With any new product (turbo kit) you're better off not buying the first production run. Wait to see if there are any bugs to work out first.

What happened to the tripoint turbo kit? did it go the way of the dodo?

YP5 Toronto May 9, 2003 03:53 PM

I definately understand being one of the first....but I guess I am judging them on their character. I have had a couple of voice concersations with them and exchanges some emails with them.

As for tripoint....not sure what happened with them...I believe they were using an aerodyne turbo...but aerodyne has gone bye bye. Don't quote me on that one....not sure.

Bluethumb May 16, 2003 12:10 PM

YP5,

Good to see another Markham boy.
My interest in the HiBoost system has also been peaked.

If you need a hand with the install once you've made up your mind, give me a shout. It's always better to experiment on someone else's car. :D

-Bt

mrpopnfresh May 16, 2003 02:42 PM

I've noticed lately that you guys are interested in the Hiboost kit. I'm still doing some research and I'm still worried about the intake tube running above the engine. Things like heat soak, and the length of the pipe, hood clearance etc. I've e-mailed them about the hood clearance and they said it'll clear the stock hood. I think the WW evo hood would look nice with this, that way you could show off the pipes and the fresh air would help to cool it down. I'm just waiting for someone to blow thier engine so I know what not to do. LOL. Acually, I hope no one blows thier engine. Anyways, this summer another turbo kit is to come out. Hopefully it'll be what we've been waiting for.

YP5 Toronto May 16, 2003 03:35 PM

Bluethumb...we have a Toronto Club...with over 400 members.

www.toprotege.com Please come and visit our board.


mrpopnfresh: I 100% that that setup would add more than some of the other conventional setups, but how much more? I don't think (without evidence) that it influences the end result because:

a) the turbo itself is hotter than air being drawn in
b) The kit utilizes a FMIC.

We shall soon see as people start to use the kit. I don't consider it to be an issue (again IMO), but it is a consideration.

HiBoost May 20, 2003 10:18 PM


Originally posted by mrpopnfresh
I've noticed lately that you guys are interested in the Hiboost kit. I'm still doing some research and I'm still worried about the intake tube running above the engine. Things like heat soak, and the length of the pipe, hood clearance etc. I've e-mailed them about the hood clearance and they said it'll clear the stock hood. I think the WW evo hood would look nice with this, that way you could show off the pipes and the fresh air would help to cool it down. I'm just waiting for someone to blow thier engine so I know what not to do. LOL. Acually, I hope no one blows thier engine. Anyways, this summer another turbo kit is to come out. Hopefully it'll be what we've been waiting for.
Like I told you in the email, the crossover casting clears the hood perfectly. The only reason why we do it that way is to keep the turbo lower in its place because it is mounted all the way around the other guys do it. This keeps the engine cooler and smoother down pipe bends. The issue about the crossover pipe being so long or heat soaking is not to worry about. The air in that part of the engine is not as hot as in the front where the turbo is. Besides it will be cooled by the very efficient front mounted intercooler. We might be new in North America, but have been working in turbocharging for long time. We design and make our own cast iron manifolds, aluminum castings etc. That means that we do not rely in other people in fabricating. We have worked along with many Mazda dealers in South America for many years turbocharging brand new cars that will then be sold thru those dealers.

If you are in So Cal, we invite you to test drive our car and see it for youself. Some people have already done it.
We are also doing free installation for our first kits sold if you live in Los Angeles.

Juan

HiBoost May 20, 2003 10:32 PM


Originally posted by eeterp
[B]

I question the injector duty cycle they're CLAIMING on their dyno runs. The Hiboost kit may be a quality product but, that 70% or whatever it was doesn't sound right.

With any new product (turbo kit) you're better off not buying the first production run. Wait to see if there are any bugs to work out first.

B]
There was a lot of dicussion about the 70% duty cycle. I think that as long as you have the right air/fuel mixture you are ok. I know we should not go over 85% duty cycle no keep it safe.

If we were lean, the hp we got had been impossible and the engine might have broken during the dyno runs.

We are new for you guys and I understand the skepticism, but over 200 kits have been installed in exactly the same motor in the mazda 626(japanesde specs) with high succes. We are approached by mazda dealers in south america to install our kits in brand new cars that are then sold in those dealers. I will post some pictures in this forum of our work. This is why we decided to build a kit for the protege5. It shares the same engine and chassis.

Juan

bazooka joe May 21, 2003 07:08 AM

Juan, thanks for being forth coming with your responses! i'm looking forward to seeing the install instructions and then making my decsion. if you have some other customers that would vouch for your equipment, that would be great! joe

mrpopnfresh May 21, 2003 12:29 PM

Juan,

Good to hear from you! Yes I am in the L.A. area and I would LOVE to test drive your Turbo P5!! And you guys doing free installation!!! Okay, please e-mail me at icky111@hotmail.com for the info on where to find you guys. Can we schedule something for this weekend? Thanks!!

HiBoost May 21, 2003 01:46 PM


Originally posted by mrpopnfresh
Juan,

Good to hear from you! Yes I am in the L.A. area and I would LOVE to test drive your Turbo P5!! And you guys doing free installation!!! Okay, please e-mail me at icky111@hotmail.com for the info on where to find you guys. Can we schedule something for this weekend? Thanks!!

Yes, we can work something out for this weekend. I will email you later with our phone number so we can talk abou it.

Juan

HiBoost May 21, 2003 01:49 PM


Originally posted by bazooka joe
Juan, thanks for being forth coming with your responses! i'm looking forward to seeing the install instructions and then making my decsion. if you have some other customers that would vouch for your equipment, that would be great! joe
I already sent them to you last night. Let me know. I just checked my sent mesagges and it was sent .

Juan

troublemaker May 22, 2003 07:16 AM

juan i live in puerto rico i want to know if the kit work in a protege sedan with same 2.0 motor and if you e -mail me instructions or information.

thanks


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