Electric Supercharger?
November-11th-2001, 04:48 PM
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Electric Supercharger?
Hi,
I'm new to the forums. I just purchased a Silver Mp5 a week ago and have been reading this forum ever since. I am surprised to see all the people from Edmonton and Calgary here...
A friend of mine gave me this link: http://www.electricsupercharger.com/
Has anyone had experience with this product? They are claiming 4-12hp (at the wheels) gain for around $300US. My first thought is this thing must be loud as hell when it kicks in!
Anyway I just thought that I might pass this on to everyone!
N
I'm new to the forums. I just purchased a Silver Mp5 a week ago and have been reading this forum ever since. I am surprised to see all the people from Edmonton and Calgary here...
A friend of mine gave me this link: http://www.electricsupercharger.com/
Has anyone had experience with this product? They are claiming 4-12hp (at the wheels) gain for around $300US. My first thought is this thing must be loud as hell when it kicks in!
Anyway I just thought that I might pass this on to everyone!
N
November-11th-2001, 05:23 PM
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You know, my fellow Prowler Club members gave me this link awhile ago. To this date nobody has tried it 
November-11th-2001, 10:16 PM
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Yup, waste of money...although the damn thing is pretty powerful(can make itself hover in mid air) it's not powerful enough to do much of anything. If you are really wanting to try this, hook up a powerful leaf blower to your intake, save $250 and realize that it's a waste of time and money.
November-12th-2001, 09:02 AM
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I have a friend that tried it on his Grand Prix. He was able to shave a few hundredths of his 1/4 mile time. No substantial gains though.
November-13th-2001, 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
Hundreths?? sounds to me like driver error/differences
verdict = POINTLESS
Hundreths?? sounds to me like driver error/differences
verdict = POINTLESS
I'm thinking of getting one just in case I want to take one of my cone filters out for a flight. Or if I need to roll a duraflame log across my garage floor.
The filter flight looks impressive, but if you take a look at the figures, it isn't. Filter and motor - 3 lbs? 3" outlet?
Area = pi x r² = 7.065in²
3lbs/7.065in² = 0.424psi
Blow that into a vacuum condition will you see any positive manifold pressure?
November-13th-2001, 11:19 PM
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Originally posted by TheMAN
If you want this stupid crap, why not get a leaf blower and ghetto duct tape the thing into your airbox?
If you want this stupid crap, why not get a leaf blower and ghetto duct tape the thing into your airbox?
I pointed it out to start a discussion, and it did. I assume since you mock and discount the idea that you must have experience with this product? I imagine that you have inside knowlege that the claims made by this company are a lie and that the dynos are not genuine? Please do tell.
I have no intention of purchasing this unit as it seems rather ghetto to me...but I'm not calling it crap either as I have no experience (neither does anyone I know) with the product.
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November-13th-2001, 11:21 PM
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Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
these will NEVER work.
Nobody has ever made an electric fan that can pump out enough CFM to feed even a very small car engine. Let alone add postive pressure to it. Its a 300 dollar piece of useless nothing.
these will NEVER work.
Nobody has ever made an electric fan that can pump out enough CFM to feed even a very small car engine. Let alone add postive pressure to it. Its a 300 dollar piece of useless nothing.
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November-14th-2001, 11:57 AM
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Don't worry about people that post replys like that. This site is full of peoplelike that. You ask for an opinion about something and they automatically flame you, or make you sound like an idiot. This is exactly why I rarely uses this board. You state your opinion on something, and some know it all tries to discount you. Thay are probably not even out of high school yet. Notce this is probably why they act this way.
November-14th-2001, 12:07 PM
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PseudoRealityX:
according to your fomula, for us 2.0 liter guys, the e-ram would have to supply more than 195 cfm at 6500rpm to make it worth while. of course, that thing puts a huge electrical load on the engine.
according to your fomula, for us 2.0 liter guys, the e-ram would have to supply more than 195 cfm at 6500rpm to make it worth while. of course, that thing puts a huge electrical load on the engine.
November-21st-2001, 12:23 AM
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Reading this just confused the mess out of me and i'm don't really have the time to try to understand this!!! LOL
how bout yall just say it's not worth the money, cuz if he got it for free or maybe alot cheaper it would be okay...
how bout yall just say it's not worth the money, cuz if he got it for free or maybe alot cheaper it would be okay...
November-21st-2001, 11:05 AM
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I am also an Aerospace Engineering student at Auburn University. And I never said that the piece of crap would work. All the guy did was ask what other people thought about it and all of you give smart a$$ replys to him. And for your information, there are electric motors that will give enough rpm for positive manifold perssure. I have worked with motors that turn out over 13,000 rpm. I'm sorry but neither a turbo or a super charger does that. I'm not saying it would be worth it to do that. It would be way too bulky and drain you electrical sys. too much. But if someone wanted to do that, they could and it would work. Oh and, sixth semester, what's that, late freshman, early sophmore. Talk to me about simple math when you're almost a senior and you are done with all youre maths through Diff. Eq's and Topics of Lin. Alg. Untill then, in my book, you don't know anything about math.
November-21st-2001, 12:05 PM
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Are you trying to start a flame war or something? Directly insulting someone isn't going to accomplish anything. Of course there are electrical motors that could create positive manifold pressure. Under reasonable circumstances no one in their right mind would install it in a car.
To me, 6th semester is late junior, that sounds like "almost a senior" to me. I've already earned my degree with an additional minor in math, am I also well below your exceptional knowledge of linear algebra and calculus? After all, my degree was computer science, no math involved in graphical information processing, artificial intelligence or 3D rendering, is there? I also convocated with great distinction, which means I did very well is university. You never would have known that, so what position are you in to judge my mathematical skills? The answer: no better position than you are to judge PseudoRealityX's knowledge.
As was said earlier, get off your high horse. Who are you to say he knows nothing about math(or any topic for that matter) without knowing him. For all you know he could be a genious at mathematics. Just because he hasn't had the time to go through 8 or more semesters doesn't mean he "don't know anything about math."
I had no problem with your post until you began to insult him because he hasn't finished as many semesters as you may have. That means nothing, for all I know, you may be passing your classes with a 60% average(In Canada we use percentages instead of grade point) while he could be scoring 98% in all of his classes. There is simply no way of knowing. My point is, you can't make an assumption that he knows nothing about math(or anything for that matter) on the extremely limited information that you have.
I find personal attacks on these boards very disturbing. Maybe it would be best if you "rarely uses this board". It would make things better for everyone.
Are you trying to start a flame war or something? Directly insulting someone isn't going to accomplish anything. Of course there are electrical motors that could create positive manifold pressure. Under reasonable circumstances no one in their right mind would install it in a car.
To me, 6th semester is late junior, that sounds like "almost a senior" to me. I've already earned my degree with an additional minor in math, am I also well below your exceptional knowledge of linear algebra and calculus? After all, my degree was computer science, no math involved in graphical information processing, artificial intelligence or 3D rendering, is there? I also convocated with great distinction, which means I did very well is university. You never would have known that, so what position are you in to judge my mathematical skills? The answer: no better position than you are to judge PseudoRealityX's knowledge.
As was said earlier, get off your high horse. Who are you to say he knows nothing about math(or any topic for that matter) without knowing him. For all you know he could be a genious at mathematics. Just because he hasn't had the time to go through 8 or more semesters doesn't mean he "don't know anything about math."
I had no problem with your post until you began to insult him because he hasn't finished as many semesters as you may have. That means nothing, for all I know, you may be passing your classes with a 60% average(In Canada we use percentages instead of grade point) while he could be scoring 98% in all of his classes. There is simply no way of knowing. My point is, you can't make an assumption that he knows nothing about math(or anything for that matter) on the extremely limited information that you have.
I find personal attacks on these boards very disturbing. Maybe it would be best if you "rarely uses this board". It would make things better for everyone.
November-21st-2001, 01:10 PM
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I have worked with motors that turn out over 13,000 rpm. I'm sorry but neither a turbo or a super charger does that.
November-21st-2001, 02:36 PM
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My Eaton M-90 redlines at 14,000RPM and that's a roots-type blower. Centrifugal superchargers/Turbochargers, as jmauld has mentioned, spin A LOT faster.
So far, it looks like I'm the only person that has piped up in this thread that has worked with one (the E-RAM). There are electric motors than can supply the required air flow, however, power demands make the trade off less appetizing. Electrically spooled turbos are in the works though.
Glad to know that in your book I know something about math.
hmmm. . . I'm glad you've been able to display your stellar mathematical skills. Hopefully, by the time your done with the 5th grade you'll be able to figure out this word problem. In the meantime, let me break it down for you:
Semester - two terms in a year.
Most universities have 4 year undergraduate programs.
1st year - Freshman, 2nd - Sophomore, 3rd - Junior, and 4th - Senior.
Since, he is in his 6th semester, that means he has completed 5.
Two in his Freshman year and two in his Sophomore year.
2 + 2 = 4
4 < 5
That would make him a Junior.
If you're still having problems with it, I'd be happy to help privately and I can send you diagrams of a hand so you can learn to add and subtract using your fingers.
So far, it looks like I'm the only person that has piped up in this thread that has worked with one (the E-RAM). There are electric motors than can supply the required air flow, however, power demands make the trade off less appetizing. Electrically spooled turbos are in the works though.
originally posted by big_ben
Talk to me about simple math when you're almost a senior and you are done with all youre maths through Diff. Eq's and Topics of Lin. Alg. Untill then, in my book, you don't know anything about math.
Talk to me about simple math when you're almost a senior and you are done with all youre maths through Diff. Eq's and Topics of Lin. Alg. Untill then, in my book, you don't know anything about math.
Oh and, sixth semester, what's that, late freshman, early sophmore.
Semester - two terms in a year.
Most universities have 4 year undergraduate programs.
1st year - Freshman, 2nd - Sophomore, 3rd - Junior, and 4th - Senior.
Since, he is in his 6th semester, that means he has completed 5.
Two in his Freshman year and two in his Sophomore year.
2 + 2 = 4
4 < 5
That would make him a Junior.
If you're still having problems with it, I'd be happy to help privately and I can send you diagrams of a hand so you can learn to add and subtract using your fingers.