Crossover placement, need some advice...
#1
Crossover placement, need some advice...
Where did you guys put your crossovers? I'm putting a set of JL XR-525cs components in the front doors but I don't know where to put them, I was thinking about putting them in the glovebox, any thoughts?
thanx
thanx
#2
Re: Crossover placement, need some advice...
Originally posted by JAC
Where did you guys put your crossovers? I'm putting a set of JL XR-525cs components in the front doors but I don't know where to put them, I was thinking about putting them in the glovebox, any thoughts?
thanx
Where did you guys put your crossovers? I'm putting a set of JL XR-525cs components in the front doors but I don't know where to put them, I was thinking about putting them in the glovebox, any thoughts?
thanx
#3
Douggie's right on the money - plenty of room in the doors, and negates the need to run new wires (a set for the tweeter and a set for the woofer) into the door which is a pain. Here's one of my Infinity x-overs - there really is a ton of room in this area on each door :
By far the best place for them, IMO. Keep them on top of the plastic vapor barrier, and you shouldn't have anything to worry about (moisture, etc.)
~HH
By far the best place for them, IMO. Keep them on top of the plastic vapor barrier, and you shouldn't have anything to worry about (moisture, etc.)
~HH
#4
hmm
I thought about that, but most people say that putting the crossovers inside the door is a big no-no, even if the risk of them getting wet is very small, I don't want to take any chances.
Ill consider it though, thanx guys. Anyone else?
Ill consider it though, thanx guys. Anyone else?
#5
Re: hmm
Originally posted by JAC
I thought about that, but most people say that putting the crossovers inside the door is a big no-no, even if the risk of them getting wet is very small, I don't want to take any chances.
Ill consider it though, thanx guys. Anyone else?
I thought about that, but most people say that putting the crossovers inside the door is a big no-no, even if the risk of them getting wet is very small, I don't want to take any chances.
Ill consider it though, thanx guys. Anyone else?
Keep them on top of the plastic vapor barrier, and you shouldn't have anything to worry about (moisture, etc.)
It's not going to get much wetter than the window/mirror switches which is also inside the door. Besides, please don't think that the crossover is any fancy expensive hi-tech circuit. It's just made from inductors and capacitors that can be bought in radio shack and are probably made by the factory that offered the lowest bid and has the lowest cost of labour.
Last edited by douggie; August-27th-2002 at 06:29 PM.
#6
If you are concerned about them in the door (that is where mine are also, inside the vapor barrier) then you could install them in the pockets, I have seen that done before. It does take up a the useful space of the pockets though...
The pluses of this location is that you can still use the single wire into the door rather than trying to route two lines to go to the respcetive drivers. Second, some crossovers have a few adjustments possible for the crossover point or the slope of the curve. Mounting inside might make them easier to get at to adjust over time to fit your ears.
I also place my crossovers into heavy duty ziplock bags to help reduce the odds of mosture.
But think about it, in the winter you track snow into the car, or the summer you open the door in a thunderstorm, mosture gets into the car enviorment all the time. (Except in Oklahoma in the middle of summer when it may not rain for two months straight at 100+ degrees!) The crossovers content with humidity all the time.
Massive amounts of direct water are indeed not good for anything electric though. The item that will get affected the most is not the inductors or the capacitors, but the circut board itself if it is not at least a decent level of an expoxy board. And if isn't then shame on the manufacturer, it should not have been used in the first place!
So mount either place that makes you happy, inside or out.
The pluses of this location is that you can still use the single wire into the door rather than trying to route two lines to go to the respcetive drivers. Second, some crossovers have a few adjustments possible for the crossover point or the slope of the curve. Mounting inside might make them easier to get at to adjust over time to fit your ears.
I also place my crossovers into heavy duty ziplock bags to help reduce the odds of mosture.
But think about it, in the winter you track snow into the car, or the summer you open the door in a thunderstorm, mosture gets into the car enviorment all the time. (Except in Oklahoma in the middle of summer when it may not rain for two months straight at 100+ degrees!) The crossovers content with humidity all the time.
Massive amounts of direct water are indeed not good for anything electric though. The item that will get affected the most is not the inductors or the capacitors, but the circut board itself if it is not at least a decent level of an expoxy board. And if isn't then shame on the manufacturer, it should not have been used in the first place!
So mount either place that makes you happy, inside or out.
#7
Hey, I'm about to mount my crossovers from my Infinity Reference components. I was thinking the same thing as you guys- mounting them to the sheet metal in a plastic bag.
I was unable to tell where hihoslava mounted them exactly. I can't tell if they are hanging off the door in his picture, or if they are mounted like that. I assume you just drilled through the plastic into the metal and drove a couple of screws in.
Can anyone give me a more detailed description of where they mounted theirs, or where I should?
Much appreciated
I was unable to tell where hihoslava mounted them exactly. I can't tell if they are hanging off the door in his picture, or if they are mounted like that. I assume you just drilled through the plastic into the metal and drove a couple of screws in.
Can anyone give me a more detailed description of where they mounted theirs, or where I should?
Much appreciated
#8
Originally posted by shaftwagon
I assume you just drilled through the plastic into the metal and drove a couple of screws in.
I assume you just drilled through the plastic into the metal and drove a couple of screws in.
There is a lot of room between the metal inner door and the plastic interior panel in certain places (like where mine are mounted) - mostly in the lower half of the door.
And that's a great idea about the zip-loc bag. I'm sure mine are fine the way they are, but you guys got me thinking about popping the door open and putting mine in a bag! Good idea, Dave.
~HH
Last edited by hihoslva; December-4th-2002 at 10:27 AM.
#9
I just mounted my infinity reference crossovers exactly where hihoslava did last night... on the outside of the vapor barrier on the inside of the door. There is infact plenty of room there.
The toughest time i had was mounting my 6.5 inch infinity woofers in the front doors. I had to drill a couple of holes into the door sheet metal. I had an adapter to fit them into the 5x7 slots, but i wasn't confident that the flimsy plastic adapters would hold my speakers securely. so i just screwed the speakers through the rain guard holders and into the metal frame. I filled the extra space with foam and duct tape.
I've read elsewhere that it is bad to drill new holes in the door, but i'm not really sure how else to do it. Also, there are plenty of other holes in the doors already from where things go in and out and from screws etc. i don't think my tiny 3/16 inch holes should rust much. any thoughts?
The toughest time i had was mounting my 6.5 inch infinity woofers in the front doors. I had to drill a couple of holes into the door sheet metal. I had an adapter to fit them into the 5x7 slots, but i wasn't confident that the flimsy plastic adapters would hold my speakers securely. so i just screwed the speakers through the rain guard holders and into the metal frame. I filled the extra space with foam and duct tape.
I've read elsewhere that it is bad to drill new holes in the door, but i'm not really sure how else to do it. Also, there are plenty of other holes in the doors already from where things go in and out and from screws etc. i don't think my tiny 3/16 inch holes should rust much. any thoughts?
#10
Originally posted by shaftwagon
I've read elsewhere that it is bad to drill new holes in the door, but i'm not really sure how else to do it. Also, there are plenty of other holes in the doors already from where things go in and out and from screws etc. i don't think my tiny 3/16 inch holes should rust much. any thoughts?
I've read elsewhere that it is bad to drill new holes in the door, but i'm not really sure how else to do it. Also, there are plenty of other holes in the doors already from where things go in and out and from screws etc. i don't think my tiny 3/16 inch holes should rust much. any thoughts?
Drilling the hole was a fine idea - just as long as it's secure.
To help prevent rust, it's a good idea to put some silicone over the hole - just put a drop of caulk on the hole before you put the screw in it - that should seal it up just fine, so any rust will be a long, long time from now. The outside of the car will probably rust before that anyway .
~HH
#11
These are my rear doors. I put the xovers in the map pockets since I do not use them and I like how the xovers look.
This is the front door. I also put the Momo xovers in the map pocket since I do not use those either and I love how the Momo xovers look. I do not have a pic of those though.
This is the front door. I also put the Momo xovers in the map pocket since I do not use those either and I love how the Momo xovers look. I do not have a pic of those though.
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