2nd Gen Projector headlight?
 

Hey i was checking out the philippines protege tech club looking for body kits and found this interesting bit they are working on having projector headlights made for the 2nd gen, thought it was kinda cool so i'm going to pos a link here:
http://pub58.ezboard.com/fpinoyprote...picID=53.topic

i read thatone a back in nov i think. so far haven't hear anything about it actually going through. =(

shoot, I am still waiting for it to actually be made , I know for sure i am down
Bruc e

i wonder how many we can get invilved around here

You guys are dreaming, i was talking to those guys about that almost 2 years ago...its never gonna happen (they almsot had 2gen altezzas at one point to, but, peopl lost interest)

Here is a pic I got from Jonas a long time ago...
http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/KDaWg/propros.jpg

that would be so unbelievably sweet

now for 1st gen projectors

SuperDave (from up here in Canada) is in the process now...

I can give you tip-this is whre you can get projectors from
Susquehanna motorports

Then you need to get 1 or 2 nd gen headlight housings and mold them in+design wiring for 2 beams. Use your imagination
I iguess you can build a set for about $300-400US.
Hope that helps

Alex

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Huh? I must've been asleep at the wheel that day .... what are you working on Dave?

This is just something I've been pondering the last week or two. :D My plan is to use the Hella 90mm modules (linked above, or here )... high and low beam. The housing would be made of fiberglass, and would be painted body color. I'm thinking it would be an alternative to getting E-spec headlights, and also produce better lighting. :)

BTW Scott, I'll get you those trunk hole measurements tomorrow! I keep forgetting :(

Dave who is making the housing for you? If that person would make 2nd gen housings also to fit those hella lights in then we'd be all set.

I will be making the housing. If things work out with the first gen housings, I may be willing to work on some second gen housings. It will be awhile before I have a product though.

i hope that this does get produced... i would deffinatly buy a sex... my 1st gen lights suck and one is foggy... i would love a replacement that looks that sick

Completely missed this thread.........but, this: 87193A - H9 Connector w/pins & seals, and this:78178 - Replacement 65w H9 bulb, fromhttp://www.susquehanna.com/susq/hella/headlamp.htm#90mm. Is all that you need to connect the Projectors after the housings are made and the high/low projectors are made, or how are these actually going to be wired? Any one maybe have a diagram. I know a guy that can lay carbon fiber, well that's what he says, and hell i'd pay the 400 total to fab up some projectors for my car. BTW i saw the Focus lights and they look Baaad. Have a really nice purpleish tint to them. These are the same projectors, right?

If you want to go and pay 400 for the housings be my guest. I'll probably be selling them for under $150.

Any chance you will have these for a 2nd gen?

If things work out with the first gens, I would definitely consider the possibility of making housings for the second gen.
Once I get rolling with this stuff, I will be taking request on parts to be made.

The best way to do this is to make a mold of your stock headlights, on the new mold, I would get E-code projector housings either from some other car that has E-code projectors, or buy "universal" aftermarket E-code projectors (if they're available)... you'll still have to figure out what to do about the high beams though... provided that you put in a secure and reliable means to adjust the lights horizontally and vertically, it should give you a definate lighting performance upgrade... if you don't do it right, it'll be a hazard... if you don't feel up to it, get the e-spec headlights, they're glass and the later 2nd gen ones have clear lens.

I won't actually be making projector lights like regular cars come with. It will be a fiberglass housing (maybe carbon fiber down the road) that holds those HELLA 90MM modules. One bulb for high beam, and one for low beam.

As for that pin kit... That will work for pluging into the bulb, but the stock connector will either have to be cut off, or add the new connector. If you just add in the H9 connector, it will allow you to easily go back to stock setup (If you sell the car).

So far I've taken a stock 90-93 lense and filled off the plastic bumbs, and filled in the resulting holes. I should be able to make a mold of it tomorrow.

would you be able to mock up some pic to show us what it might look like? how many would you need to be interested and willing to pay for you to do it? and are you we talking the same cost you mentioned for the 1st gen? or differen't price?

I'm not very good in the photoshop department. :)
This will not be a limited production thing. I will make a mold, and as people decide they want them they can buy them. I'm sick of these one time only things people do with the proteges. It would likely be the same cost, but it all depends on whats involved. I havent inspected second gen headlights very closely, so I'm not sure what extra work (if any) that it will take. If there is a difference in cost, it would most likely be minimal.

Are you talking 150 for both housings w/ projectors in them, or w/o projectors, just housings? If it's 150 w/o projectors, which i'm pretty sure they are, then its gonna cost almost 400 total anyway. So you've actually atarted on these!:p Yeah 1st gen projectors for ALL!!

which "hella 90mm" lights are you getting? what is the part number? Are you getting sealed beam type housings but with replacable bulbs?

You guys are giveing me ideas for my brothers Geo Storm, he doesn't like his headlights and we talked about doing something like this, but anyway.

After everything is all said and done, like i said i know a guy that says he can do carbon fiber, he was supposed to make a lip for someone that i know. So i can check this guy out. Then you can send me a mold and We can have Carbon Fiber ones.:D I'm pretty sure this guy won't charge too much i've known him for a while now.

I posted that price high. I'm expecting it to cost less, but leaving room for things I might have not accounted for. Plus if it turns out cheaper than that price, it can only make you guys happier :) The price would be without the lamps. It would include everything else though to make the kit complete. I doubt you could get someone to make you one offs with the lamps etc for under 400, but I could be wrong :) Yes I have started.... I'll keep you guys posted :)

It seems like you're makeing them for the 90-93 1st gen Pros, but what about the 323's and 94 pro's? Maybe if there's enough interest, or would it not be that hard? Seeing as you're using the almost same headlamp?

As poster earlier in the thread, or here.

I havent played with carbon fiber yet, but plan to. Once I figure out carbon fiber, I'd make the housings with that too (for those who don't want to paint the housing).

I'm starting with the 90-93 headlights because thats what is on my car (for testing purposes) and what I had an extra set of. Once this is done, I would make them for the 323 and 94 protege, along with possibly the second gen.

lousy lights... marginal improvement from your stock pos

you should get these Cibie E-code H1 housings instead: http://www.rdgarage.com/Cibie%20CSR.html

Any proof?

the man isn't happy unless he can disagree with you on something

look at the certification... it's SAE... now click on that link I posted... SAE beam pattern vs ECE beam pattern... SAE is the left light in the pic and ECE is the right light in the pic in case you don't understand... it doesn't matter how bright the light bulbs you have in there, if the beam pattern is shit, you get that blob shit excuse for a beam pattern you see in those pics

I fully understand the things show in that link. I wanted proof that the HELLA 90mm modules are shit.

And where are these Cibie CSR Headlamps available? A google search gives me nothing.

Daniel Stern sells the Cibie CSRs... at a performance standpoint, the Hella 90mm modules you've shown are shit because they provide a SAE beam pattern, even if they are an improvement from your stock shit the SAE beam pattern inherently does: imense glare to oncoming traffic, imense back glare in bad weather, insufficient lighting to the area immediately to the front of the car and overall side lighting, poor illumination of road side roadsigns... my point is, no matter how good the SAE beam pattern design the Hella lights you plan to use give, they are still inferior compare to MANY better lamps out there... do not limit yourself to Hella... Cibie and Marchal makes good lamps (and in many cases, MUCH better) too

also, don't force yourself in getting an SAE type of headlight... it seems to me that's what you're doing... get the better performing ECE stuff... it's legal in Canada!

:rolleyes:
Yeah, So.
I'm not too sure about how many people are if it's SAE or not, as long as it's significantly better, and that's not a hard feat, than the stock headlamps.:)


So i kinda agree, unless of course people only want SAE.
Can't something be made that will house two different types of projector lights? Like SAE and ECE will fit in the housings.