kenchan

how do you install new, longer studs on the hub? I want to
get 10mm spacers on the front and perhaps 5mm on the rear.


i got the eibachs installed along with the factory sport muffer.
it is very sweet! took me about 6-7 hours.

nickkaranikas

are you using stock rims or aftermarket?
i m curios to know the offset your usng if they are aftermarket
because 10mm seems like alot

kenchan

yah, im using the stockers right now. im pretty much going more
for appearance. the rear seems to be fine, but the front needs
to be pushed out towards the fender more. anyone know how to
replace the studs? i think i can go by with factory studs if 5mm,
but 10mm is a nono without studs.

im also planning to wrap 205/50 on the stock wheels after the
spacers if it still seems like it needs more offset.

the factory wheels look good from the side, but from off angle,
yuck. skinny spare-looking tire and conservative offset.

randallb

I'm guessing you space out, and your wheels will not have the hub contact - looks like a good setup to break a stud. Any of the wheel experts out there want to comment?

4 rubBeR

A free bump for you since I'm interested in pushing out the corners as well using the stockers.

Glad to hear you like the eibach kit; by how much do you figure you dropped your ride?

Sir Nuke

spacers are NOT a good idea.....its a weak link....I would recommend saving up for a set of wheels with the proper offset to get the desired look/fit you want.

slamprotege5

You could always get 18s' and Spool springs. Puts the wheels nicely to the edge of the fender.:-)

nickkaranikas

i think you should go with a nice set of rims around 40 42mm offset
nuke is right the spacers are no good for that much relocation at least
i use 38 mm enkie and they werent expensive at all

Installshield

You can't push the front out 10mm on a P5. That would bring the front wheel offset to +40mm, and would cut right into your sidewalls with your Eibachs installed. If you take the springs off you would still rub during cornering. I agree with you, the front does look like it has a narrower track than the back. But 10mm is too much. It looks like there is room, but I doubt it won't rub. Contact ARD MP5 if you have any technical questions. This will be even more apperant if you install those 205/50 tires on the stock wheels. I have that size winter tire now with out the car lowered, and the sidewall bends outward to mount on our pizza cutter width stock wheels. If I would use 5mm spacers, I bet it would be enough to destroy the tires without even lowering it...

Just find a decent set of wheels with the right offset, if not go with the smallest spacers you can live with. I will stress it once more though, 10mm spacers will not be a good idea...

Installshield

What size wheels and tires and what brand tires? Is your car lowered yet? I can't beleive they are not rubbing with that offset...Or did you roll your fenders? Sorry for all the questions...

kenchan

thanks for your input guys.

the eibachs should drop the ride about 1.3-1.5inches all together.
its a nice rice too, comfy and not bouncy at all...very comparable
to stock. im still waiting for the springs to settle..i put on about
300miles, but still not completely lowered as advertised.

i ordered a pair of 5mm offset spacers today. im not sure
if these spacers come with center hubs to align the hubcentric
wheels. if yes, i will use them as long as I can get 5 or more
full turns on the lugs. if not, im going to get some rota's as
you guys' recommendations. there are many people that autox
who use offset spacers. if you get the right kind, it will not put
additional tear on the studs...especially for a tiny, lightweight
car like the MP5 which has very little torque.

i dont want to get too big of a wheel because the stock brake
discs are tiny and dont want to emphasize the gap between the
rotor and wheel. 16in is the largest wheel i would go and
perhaps wrap a 215/45/16 on there at 45mm offset.

Installshield

Lateral grip will be more of a stressor to the studs than just torque and accleration. The more cornering power you give the car, the more stress on the hubs/studs and other suspension components. Acceleration shock could break the studs too, but I would be more concerned about loosing a front wheel in a 80mph sweeper...

kenchan

i would be very surprised to see if i would loose a wheel
on a 80mph sweeper, ill test it out for you first hand when i
get them installed. lol. and speaking of lateral
grip, im still using the SP5000's on stock struts, stock sway
bar.... it grips pretty well, but there are many other areas in
the suspension that the lateral g can release too. i dont plan
on racing this car either...its my grocery getter.

nickkaranikas

38 mm is stretching it a little ill admit that
its not lowered yet
205 50 16 yok is the tire
with 1.5 progress springs i will have to roll the fenders because after camber adjustment (especialy in the rear) it will hit the tip of the side wall
i found this out the hard way with 215's, stock struts and lowering springs
but the offset makes the car look real aggresive
tokiko struts are on there now with the stock springs and it handles unbelievably good!

Installshield

I would be suprised too, but my point was that you would most likely strip/snap the studs in a corner rather than under heavy acceleration. I would be though that if you would use a large spacer, it would become the weakest link in the supsension and be the first to go...