demonx2000

Hey yall, I just got my focal F5's put on my mp5 and they look hot as ****. Next thing i want to do is slam it, but i don't know what is better. Can you guys give me advice on which coilover set is better, and how bad the camber is effected if at all. I'm deciding between the Ground Control coilovers or Skunk2 racing coilovers?They are both about the same price but which is a better ride?

Thanx,

Rob

Patio

its really going to depend on what Shocks/Struts you use, not just the Coilover

some *** clown could say "this ride sucks ***, its too stiff" and they could just have their adjustible shocks/struts set on a really hard setting, rather than a soft setting

The P5's already ride a bit rough from the factory, at least thats my opinion, I use to have an Accord on 205/40 series 17" tires and Eibachs, and the P5's ride is about the same, but a bit more softer.

I'd suggest Tokico 5 way adjustables or KYB's, I know riding around on stocks is going to be rough as hell.

ManuelGz

Hello PseudoRealityX :

I ment to ask you long time ago about this. How did you installed the illumina in your Protege? What other shock did you use to make them work? I am working on my suspension right now and I'd like to install the Tokico Illuminas on my car. I have the front almost done, using shocks from a VW Rabbit, but I'm having a hard time with the rear, I don't know what to use to match the rear. Do you know if Tokico makes Illuminas for the GT-R or GT-X in Europe or Japan? That'd make things a lot easier.

Please let me know what you think,

Manuel Gz

RHAGEL

I dont know much about coilovers, but my friend has tein super street dampers on his civic and I think they can give a low stiff suspension. (if you have the right settings) They also make them for the protege.

Installshield

Exactly, the point of the strut is to "Dampen" the blow of the suspension loading suddenly. Here is a short summary of what you need to consider, it is much more complicated than this brief piece of **** but hopefully gives some info: Stiff springs will make the suspension harder to compress, thus a stiffer ride. The strut prevents, aside from bottoming out, the spring from over correcting the supsenion after the load stress has decreased. Meaning the struts will allow a slower even bounce back to normal ride height after a pothole, rather than the supension just bouncing up and down like a women. Too stiff of springs married to stock or less dampening forced struts results in what jesse is talking about. You bouncing all over the place like a jackass. The higher spring rates will shove the car vertically north harder than the struts can compensate for and then you look like an idiot. The reverse (too heavy struts with lighter springs) and the car might not return to the normal ride height all together (don't worry about that, this is rarely the case with aftermarket ****)...Again this is just an idea of the relationship between these two suspension componets, and overlooks a number of other factors...

You WILL need stiffer struts with the choices you mentioned. Ride will suffer big time, and don't listen to that crap about it being fine for a while or it being "Great until the stock struts blow" It will suck immediatley. It will be crazy stiff right away + bounce becuase of the softer stock struts. The more you lower it with those kits, the more it will suck. Just a warning... The stock struts are not equipped to handle those spring rates, and will ******* scream at you for your decision...


Tokico supposedly has the Illumina 5 way and 45 way adjustable struts in the works for 3rd gen Pro's, but not sure on when they will be available...

carguycw

Civic suspension does not equal Protege suspension. 88-00 Civics have double wishbone front and multilink rear suspension that is much more tolerant of extreme lowering than the regular McPherson struts you'll find at the front of a Protege. Apples vs. oranges.

Installshield

and the back...The TTL rear suspension uses struts too...