well my local Wall-Mart still has old Mobil 1, the one that said 'Tri-synthetic' on it. Should I get that one or the new one?

my local wal-mart had the old 'tri-synthetic' in 5qt containers on sale for $17.88. I couldn't resist so I bought one. 2 days later when I drop by again they were all gone....

I say get the old ones if you can, because those are guaranteed to be grade IV basestocks :)

Re: Re: New Mobil 1 with SuperSyn
 

I'd be curious where he got that info from. When I queried tech services at Amsoil about it, the said they were still evaluating the new formula, whcih would take a while.

Re: Re: Re: New Mobil 1 with SuperSyn
 

It was on another message board, I forget where. From the technical lingo he was using and the length of his posts, you could tell he wasn't an imposter.

You know, I'm still not completely convinced either way. I'd be interested in hearing the results of the evaluation.

Mobil response
 

Here is a copy of the email response I received this morning from Mobil. (Group IV is the fully synthetic basestock):

Subj: Re: Mobil1 product Technical question
Date: 05/30/2002 9:33:02 AM Central Daylight Time
From: mobilproducts@ourdataworks.com (Mobil E-Store)
To: -----@aol.com



No, Mobil1 Supersyn is still a GroupIV basestock which is a PAO based
oil just like the Tri-Synthetic motor oil was.

-----@aol.com wrote:

> Just a simple question which is not mentioned on the website.
>
> Does the new Mobil 1 with Supersyn use Grade III basestock?
>
> Thank you in advance for your response.
>
> Ken







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Re: Mobil response
 

Here are some intertesting comments from Mobil's website:

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Q. What's the difference between a fully synthetic and a semi-synthetic motor oil?
A. All motor oils are made up of base oils and additives. In general, fully synthetic motor oils contain non-conventional, high-performance fluids. Semi-synthetic oils (also called "blends") usually use a small percentage of non-conventional, high-performance fluids in combination with conventional oil.

Q. Is Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ a fully synthetic motor oil?
A. Yes, it is. To meet the demanding requirements of today's specifications (and our customers' expectations), Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ uses high-performance fluids, including polyalphaolefins (PAOs), along with a proprietary system of additives. Each Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ viscosity grade uses a unique combination of synthetic fluids and selected additives in order to tailor the viscosity grade to its specific application.
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Notice the "in general" comment in the first question and the mention of "high performance fluids" in BOTH questions. Those statements leave so much wiggle room they never really answered the questions.

Sure, Mobil 1 does use a PAO base stock as part of their oil, as the email confirms as well. They also say they use "high performance fluids" including PAO's. How much of the base stock is PAO's and how much is "high performance fluids?

Companies like Amsoil use PAO's and the neccesary additives, not other fluids, PAO's and additves.

I can't wait to see some results from some testing on the new formula. Actual numbers instead of speculation would be great as far as I'm considered. Even if it turned out the oil was of a higher quality than I would like from my standpoint, at least the guessing game would stop.