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iroc326 May-17th-2002 11:01 PM

Shifting into 3rd w/ P5
 
Have any of you had problems shifting in 3rd ? It's the 2nd time this week that 3rd gear doesn't engage (grinding noise)eventough the clutch is pushed to the floor !!!!
Any ideas of the problem?

Thx.

Sir Nuke May-18th-2002 10:29 AM

if this car is fairly new....I would be in the dealer in a heart beat.

it could be as simple as the clutch needs adjustment....then again....it could be something serious in the tranny.

MazdaSpeedRacer May-18th-2002 01:10 PM

Ok people, LEARN HOW TO SHIFT. If you know how to shift learn how to spot a problem with your car. No matter how new or not broken in a car is, IT WILL NOT GRIND WITH PROPER SHIFTING! Think about what you are saying before you say it for god sake. GET YOUR CAR TO THE DEALERSHIP. Or learn how to shift. Its all you have to do. **Note: hardest gear people find to shift into...3rd** Maybe it isnt a coincidence.....

txzoomr May-18th-2002 08:58 PM

Damn Mazdaspeedracer...speak your mind why don't you?

I was about to say I have a similar concern with my brand new P5 but now..........well hell I figure you'll just flame me....

Theman seems to have a similar issue too...maybe, just maybe it is a break in thing.

txzoomr May-18th-2002 09:00 PM

sorry IROC326 I forgot to answer you ...take it to the shop...it is warranty and ..it cost nothin to find out....

MazdaSpeedRacer May-18th-2002 11:12 PM

Does a new P5 have a "dog eared gearbox"? Was i talking about anything other that a P5? NO! So shut up. And so it is harder to pull straight down than up and over without anything to push against(like 5th).....makes sense to me!

kc5zom May-18th-2002 11:17 PM

I think Mazdaspeedricer is disrespecting your authoritae. Anyway my third gear was a little troublesome at first too. But it worked itself out I guess. Haven't had any problems since the first oil change.

MazdaSpeedRacer May-19th-2002 12:25 AM

Hmmm...im not trying to be funny, i dont recall making any silly happy faces and saying "LOL" at any time. We are talking about stock trannys here, if you are going to take every word i say at take it to the extreme seriousness and word it to your advantage thats fine. Im talking about shifting fast, not grandma style. The shift from 1st to 2nd is a straight line with the left side of the gearbox to "rest" against. The shift from 3rd to 4th is straight down. The shift from 4th to 5th is bery simple with the right side of the gearbox to "rest" against. So the shift from 2nd to 3rd, where there is nothing to "rest" agaisnt and is right between 1st and 5th....thats not the most "difficult" gear to shift to? Makes sense to me! Of course any competent driver can handle this, but if you are grinding a gear on a regular basis, there is a better chance of it being that one that any other. Sorry, i have driven a few new cars in the last bit test driving and all....dont recall any grinding gears, but hey, maybe its just my luck huh?

MazdaSpeedRacer May-19th-2002 01:26 AM

Well ok, i wasnt talking about stress on the tranny, i was talking about dificulty(as if there is any anyway) on the driver. This was OBVIOUS in my post. But i guess that wasnt obvious enough. Ill try to paint things out more clearly in the future. Good to know we were both right then i guess.

MazdaSpeedRacer May-19th-2002 01:37 AM

Ok, i have said lights that i put in that are brigher...are brighter(lets not argue about that one anymore, you know neither of us will agree with the other) and then i said the "most challenging" shift is from 2nd to 3rd...which you did back up after i explained it. Thats the only 2 points i have fought for tonight(that and the fact that magnetic car bras, hippocrites and fake plastic floor mats/seat covers bought at Walmart dont improve a car). Could you show me where i have made it clear that i think i am a car "guru" or where i have said i am an amazing driver? Thanks in advance!

protetype May-19th-2002 03:06 AM


Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
MazdaSpeedRacer....


Please stop being a tool.

;)

txzoomr May-19th-2002 06:18 AM

Believe it or not ....this was healthy...I learned somethings from the thread....TheMan....thanks you made me feel better about my 3rd gear grind....

Mazdaspeed....well, hmmm...I guess I now know why all my years in a dirt track super stocker makes sense too...I never ground those gears either.

I guess it got off track from the original question...

Thanks to all of you

ry_clark May-19th-2002 10:04 AM

straight up TOOL!!!!!

MazdaSpeedRacer May-19th-2002 02:20 PM

Paolo, like in the other thread, you are beating a dead dog with a stick. Its over. Its discussed. Its closed. Shut up about it.

azrakain May-19th-2002 02:32 PM


Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
Please stop being a tool.
The tool submits.

noodles May-19th-2002 06:44 PM

mazaspeed u're an idiot
 
Dude you talk too much cr@p out of your @$$. Being a true n00b at stick ( 1 month) now.. shifting to 3rd and to 4th is the easiest. From 2nd the stick will automatically spring-pop itself to the center so all it really is is a straight push up to 3rd, and it's not hard at all. Same as going to 4th. 1st-2nd is the hardest and it's always stiffer when shifting.

nick May-20th-2002 07:18 AM

My MP3 always has this slight notch/ grind when shifting from 2nd to 3rd. However it only happens when really pushing the rpms, over 6000.


I have had my MP3 for 1 year now and have 19,000 miles on it. It seems to get worse with age, and I just changed my trans fluid to syntheic, 1 week ago and the problem still exists.

I think the shifting forks are bent, because of the precision I use when I shift. I think I bent one of the shifter forks when my cell phone fell down into the shifter boot and prevented me from shifting into a higher gear and I kept forcing it, until I noticed the cell phone stopping me.

aries May-20th-2002 07:11 PM


Originally posted by MazdaSpeedRacer
Ok people, LEARN HOW TO SHIFT. If you know how to shift learn how to spot a problem with your car. No matter how new or not broken in a car is, IT WILL NOT GRIND WITH PROPER SHIFTING! Think about what you are saying before you say it for god sake. GET YOUR CAR TO THE DEALERSHIP. Or learn how to shift. Its all you have to do. **Note: hardest gear people find to shift into...3rd** Maybe it isnt a coincidence.....
Hey MazdaSpeedRacer - Here's where all the problems started. Read your original post and tell tell us where you went wrong... okay, I'll give a few hints:

1. Don't assume that we (people) need to "LEARN HOW TO SHIFT" (all caps means you're yelling). I'm sure there are many very experienced drivers on this board who might have taken offense to your remark.

2. I personally can't honestly say that I've never grinded a gear or two even though I consider myself a pretty competent "shifter". Coincidentally, I've grinded 3rd gear on my MP5 a couple of times since I've purchased it. I figured it's just part of the break-in period since each time I've had the clutch on the floor.

3. The over-all tone of your postings are just too strong. Maybe this is normal - you're just an in-your-face kinda guy, but remember that first impressions are important in any type of community. So far this one has been pretty good about positive and constructive critism. I myself am a newbie and have been fairly careful to keep to what I know and not step on anyone's toes.

Final advice (take it for what it's worth) observe and excersise posting etiquette. Think about how your response would make YOU feel if you received it from someone else.

BTW - with 11,000 miles on my MP5, the tranny runs smooth and 3rd gear couldn't be any happier.

PEACE!:cool:


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