I need to start paying more attention to the protege :(

70k miles, still on stock shocks (gone now, like riding on springs only)
still on stock motor mounts
warped brake rotors

what durometer are your mounts? you have the front , rear , and side inserts all awr right?

they wont bend or break. if they would bend or break then they wouldnt have released them. thats what took so long for them to come out, TESTING. there have already been sls side mounts that broke, not the bushing, but the metal itself. i have the front in now and about to do the rear. sides will be out soon. of course awr is going to make the disclaimer, they obviously want you to buy THEIRS and not Street Units. If you want to rattle your car go awr. if you want good mounts that are also good enough to be used on a daily driver, so Street Unit

^^ the only SLS mount that broke was a prototype mount, unless you know something I don't.

I've seen my fair share of 3rd gen Protege race cars and I know that not a single one featured 'street unit' mounts. Shiny billet aluminium < solid steel.

The reason the street unit mounts are comfortable for daily driving is that they have the softest inserts out of any mount I've seen, aside from maybe the stock mounts (though when new, the stock mounts 'feel' pretty stiff.

they aren't on race cars for a reason. race car mounts will rattle the hell out of the car and for a daily driver that isn't what you need. if you are trying to build a race car then yes, go awr and have the shit rattled out of your car, but then again, if you are using it as a race car it doesn't matter about the vibrations out the wahzoo.

That's a decent point. I still have my stock ones, and I find my car has alot of vibration as is. I'm willing to sacrifice some performance to keep it comfortable.

good point... i can live w/ the rattles :bigthumb: - of course, i cant hear any rattles over my exhaust.

Or get the SLS mounts that have much stiffer rubber than the Street Unit mounts without sacrificing anything (holds the engine firmly in place without vibrations)

not sure 75 is even stiff enough for a race car.

sls only has the front and side. no rear yet. if they had their rear out already i would have gotten theirs but SU already has rear and front. sides (both) should be out soon.

Never said it was stiff enough for a race car.. that's what AWR is for.

So if the front and rear mounts are the ones by the radiator and firewall, where are the side mounts located? Are side mounts or inserts available for the 1.6 liter ZM-DE?

Side mounts are near the strut towers.. in front of them. Driver's side holds up the tranny, the passenger side one bolts on where the timing belt is.

I know inserts are available from AWR for the 2.0, not sure how different the mounts are on the 1.6 since they must bolt up to the same place on the chassis.. obviously that has no bearing on the shape/size/design of the rubber which would dictate if the inserts were compatible. If they aren't, you could always make your own inserts with .. window weld or whatever that butyl crap is people use. It might not last a long time but it's cheap as hell.

Front and rear are 70s. Stock sides.

Just weld them solid you girls!

So... my manual '02 Protege is completely stock, daily driver, 60k miles and my mounts are shot. I've read the rear is a real bitch to replace, so for my situation would I be fine just replacing the front and sides with the SLS mounts? Is the rear really needed for a completely stock, daily driven Protege?