Mazdaspeed vs. Wrx
June-17th-2003, 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
none of you have even attempted to answer his question....
none of you have even attempted to answer his question....
We can't tell him which one is better. That's for him to decide after he takes both for a test drive.
Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
By the way, your friends are wrong. Power doesn't make a car handle poorly. For the WRX, it's the overly soft suspension, and height of the car.
By the way, your friends are wrong. Power doesn't make a car handle poorly. For the WRX, it's the overly soft suspension, and height of the car.
June-17th-2003, 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
"ive been throwing around deciding to buy a MSP or a WRX... i really want a car for autocross... "
sounds like he'd care more about which car is better for autocross than which is is faster from a stop or roll...
just my opinion.
"ive been throwing around deciding to buy a MSP or a WRX... i really want a car for autocross... "
sounds like he'd care more about which car is better for autocross than which is is faster from a stop or roll...
just my opinion.
People were just giving their opinions on other aspects of the cars. Like I said earlier, If I just wanted a car for autocross I would buy a 95-99 Neon ACR for $1500-$5000 and keep the P5 for daily driving.
June-18th-2003, 07:28 AM
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shutup everyone
hello?
we're on a mazda forum.... you wanna knock the protege then go to another board... seriously i come here to read about mods and people like me who enjoy their mazda protege5 or mazdaspeed
and anyway i can tell you why i bought an Sp20...
because it is unique.... if i turbo'd it (spool, fm, hiboost) i would be unique...
every f%&in wog and his dog drives a wrx or a lancer over here because "its so modifiable" im sick of hearing people walk up to a perfect specimen on a modified car at an autosalon and hear "bro my cousins rex would kick that bbbbrrrooo thats lame"
i want to make a mod that makes my car nicer to drive, gets me appreciation for the effort (how much effort does it take to pump up the boost on a wrx? nothing computer mods and its runs more standard..... WOW!!!)
thats not car mofication that being a sheep and being "cool"
yes the wrx is a cool car, but so is the mazdaspeed, and i will not hear people knocking **** on it... im biased... why? because i drive a mazda, as with most of the people here.
let it rest!!
we're on a mazda forum.... you wanna knock the protege then go to another board... seriously i come here to read about mods and people like me who enjoy their mazda protege5 or mazdaspeed
and anyway i can tell you why i bought an Sp20...
because it is unique.... if i turbo'd it (spool, fm, hiboost) i would be unique...
every f%&in wog and his dog drives a wrx or a lancer over here because "its so modifiable" im sick of hearing people walk up to a perfect specimen on a modified car at an autosalon and hear "bro my cousins rex would kick that bbbbrrrooo thats lame"
i want to make a mod that makes my car nicer to drive, gets me appreciation for the effort (how much effort does it take to pump up the boost on a wrx? nothing computer mods and its runs more standard..... WOW!!!)
thats not car mofication that being a sheep and being "cool"
yes the wrx is a cool car, but so is the mazdaspeed, and i will not hear people knocking **** on it... im biased... why? because i drive a mazda, as with most of the people here.
let it rest!!
June-18th-2003, 09:50 AM
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Re: shutup everyone
Originally posted by wiredone
hello?
we're on a mazda forum.... you wanna knock the protege then go to another board... seriously i come here to read about mods and people like me who enjoy their mazda protege5 or mazdaspeed
hello?
we're on a mazda forum.... you wanna knock the protege then go to another board... seriously i come here to read about mods and people like me who enjoy their mazda protege5 or mazdaspeed
Originally posted by wiredone
and anyway i can tell you why i bought an Sp20...
because it is unique.... if i turbo'd it (spool, fm, hiboost) i would be unique...
every f%&in wog and his dog drives a wrx or a lancer over here because "its so modifiable" im sick of hearing people walk up to a perfect specimen on a modified car at an autosalon and hear "bro my cousins rex would kick that bbbbrrrooo thats lame"
i want to make a mod that makes my car nicer to drive, gets me appreciation for the effort (how much effort does it take to pump up the boost on a wrx? nothing computer mods and its runs more standard..... WOW!!!)
thats not car mofication that being a sheep and being "cool"
and anyway i can tell you why i bought an Sp20...
because it is unique.... if i turbo'd it (spool, fm, hiboost) i would be unique...
every f%&in wog and his dog drives a wrx or a lancer over here because "its so modifiable" im sick of hearing people walk up to a perfect specimen on a modified car at an autosalon and hear "bro my cousins rex would kick that bbbbrrrooo thats lame"
i want to make a mod that makes my car nicer to drive, gets me appreciation for the effort (how much effort does it take to pump up the boost on a wrx? nothing computer mods and its runs more standard..... WOW!!!)
thats not car mofication that being a sheep and being "cool"
My area is hardly saturated with sport compacts (other than Hondas). There are no MSPs, P5s, SRT-4s, WRXs (except mine) in my area. The only WRX I've seen was about 30 miles west of me.
Originally posted by wiredone
yes the wrx is a cool car, but so is the mazdaspeed, and i will not hear people knocking **** on it... im biased... why? because i drive a mazda, as with most of the people here.
yes the wrx is a cool car, but so is the mazdaspeed, and i will not hear people knocking **** on it... im biased... why? because i drive a mazda, as with most of the people here.
The thread starter asked for opinions. That's what he got.
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June-18th-2003, 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
And you'd lose
The ACR isn't competitive anymore anywhere...MAYBE DSP, but nobody seems to be trying anymore, since Daddio left.
It's a good all around car, but it's not in the upper echelon that it used to be in.
And you'd lose
The ACR isn't competitive anymore anywhere...MAYBE DSP, but nobody seems to be trying anymore, since Daddio left.
It's a good all around car, but it's not in the upper echelon that it used to be in.
I don't know what mods you can do in each of the SCCA classifications but have you seen the aftermarket support for the 1st gen neons? I'm sure you could have a competitive racer for under $5k.
June-18th-2003, 10:04 AM
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dude you live in austrailia. Since there are only a few AWD cars made and the WRX is the IMO the most bang for the cheap price, it's no surprise they are so popular. Don't you guys have more trails and dirt roads than paved ones???? They really aren't that abundant driving around in the US. That may be why we like them so much. Anyhow....go take a cold shower dude. I love the MSP but i also love it enough to objectively critsize it. Cuz hey, if i was buying a car i want to know everything about it. Not just that it's a turbo protege, but what are both the good and bad aspects of the car.
June-18th-2003, 11:19 AM
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I have a question, I don't know that much about the MSP but so far from what I've read the turbo system for the MSP isn't a good one. Would it be better to upgrade the turbo system and get rid of the one that came with the stock car? Or what about adding an addidtional turbo system onto it.?
June-18th-2003, 11:50 AM
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you could replace the turbo with a bigger one or change the turbine or housing but adding a 2nd charger isnt worth the effort. there is just no room under there to mount or plumb a second turbo with out removing some things (like A/C system). Not to mention the heat that a 2nd turbo would create you may have to change out all the hoses so they don't fatique.
June-18th-2003, 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
I bought my car because of 2 things
a) i like SW20 MR2s
b) it was a nationally competitive autocross car once setup
There are people all across the country who special order new cars with JUST the performance goodies to get the best autocross car out there....
I bought my car because of 2 things
a) i like SW20 MR2s
b) it was a nationally competitive autocross car once setup
There are people all across the country who special order new cars with JUST the performance goodies to get the best autocross car out there....
June-19th-2003, 01:54 AM
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Originally posted by Farsyde
dude you live in austrailia. Since there are only a few AWD cars made and the WRX is the IMO the most bang for the cheap price, it's no surprise they are so popular. Don't you guys have more trails and dirt roads than paved ones???? They really aren't that abundant driving around in the US. That may be why we like them so much. Anyhow....go take a cold shower dude. I love the MSP but i also love it enough to objectively critsize it. Cuz hey, if i was buying a car i want to know everything about it. Not just that it's a turbo protege, but what are both the good and bad aspects of the car.
dude you live in austrailia. Since there are only a few AWD cars made and the WRX is the IMO the most bang for the cheap price, it's no surprise they are so popular. Don't you guys have more trails and dirt roads than paved ones???? They really aren't that abundant driving around in the US. That may be why we like them so much. Anyhow....go take a cold shower dude. I love the MSP but i also love it enough to objectively critsize it. Cuz hey, if i was buying a car i want to know everything about it. Not just that it's a turbo protege, but what are both the good and bad aspects of the car.
June-19th-2003, 04:27 AM
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Originally posted by Chastan
He's in Sydney dude, not in the middle of nowhere
He's in Sydney dude, not in the middle of nowhere
sorry to everyone who thought i was getting fired... text msgs have a way of misguiding tone... wrx's are EVERYWHERE here they are the most stolen car in australia, if theres a robbery, a ram raid, a car escape its all done with a wrx... half our police drove wrx's a year ago(until their speedos where detected to be way off making speeding tickets way off).... hell if its a subaru wrx, or a lancer then anyone ethnic (i seem to be a hole in this theory) has to drive it...
lol
our SP20's are still pretty rare over here which i why i picked it... sexy car... the protege's over there are pretty stock compared... our protege's and astina's are what you guys have but our sp20's is much like the Sport20 in japan and the astina sp20 is your protege 5... you can also get a protege sp20 and its the same as a protege5 just the shape of a protege(sedan) same 2L and all...
just incase everyone hadnt been told yet...
not knocking wrx's or worshipping mazdaspeeds (we dont even have them here =( ) but i got the impression everyone was bowing to wrx's... give them a short light to light run and youll have a grin on your face =)
my 2c... not angry, just my 2c =) cheers
June-19th-2003, 05:14 AM
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When I was over there in 2000 seemed like there were a lot of Ford Falcons and the like...hmmm, maybe it was just me 
And do you guys even have pennies?
Sorry for getting off-topic couldn't resist, I think all the bases are covered though, unless we get more information on what AcoupDetat wants to do... what class he would want to AutoX in, for example
And do you guys even have pennies?
Sorry for getting off-topic couldn't resist, I think all the bases are covered though, unless we get more information on what AcoupDetat wants to do... what class he would want to AutoX in, for example
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June-19th-2003, 08:29 AM
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true true
Originally posted by Chastan
When I was over there in 2000 seemed like there were a lot of Ford Falcons and the like...hmmm, maybe it was just me
And do you guys even have pennies? Sorry for getting off-topic couldn't resist, I think all the bases are covered though, unless we get more information on what AcoupDetat wants to do... what class he would want to AutoX in, for example
When I was over there in 2000 seemed like there were a lot of Ford Falcons and the like...hmmm, maybe it was just me
And do you guys even have pennies?
Sorry for getting off-topic couldn't resist, I think all the bases are covered though, unless we get more information on what AcoupDetat wants to do... what class he would want to AutoX in, for example