_Kansei_

Well yeah.. they do still work on the OEM springs, it isn't really damaging anything.. but the ride quality is a bit worse.

MDLockard

Thanks for all the help. First time I've replaced Struts with aftermarket. Learning there's a difference between what will works and what the ideal set up is.

J-Protege

Bleh, I can't find any MSP struts sets for what I want to pay. After paying for shipping, it's actually cheaper to buy Tokico HP struts and springs packaged together, than just MSP struts.

So, anyone want to buy a set of perfect MSP springs?

J-Protege

On another note, it seems like Onlinemazdaparts is selling endlinks for like $23 a peice. I think they are just standard protege sedan ones, but I can't tell.

Are these fine, or should I get different ones for the MSP sway bars?

Also, does anyone know where to get an actual MSP/MP3/P5 strut tower brace? I can only find aftermarkets or cheap looking junk. I like the OEM one best, and it fits my red car quite nicely.

_Kansei_

Get MSP ones

but mine? wait then I'd need one. I had an aftermarket one, they're all junk because they're hinged on both sides. It allows the chassis to flex as a parallelogram still.

but yeah if you find an MSP bar for sale anywhere (it's the silver one) lemme know, I'll buy it and sell you my p5 one or you can buy it and we just trade.

silverpro5

Was that the GTSPEC bar?

_Kansei_

The corksport but they're virtually identical. I think the AutoEXE bare is a good one but of course.. a bit pricey and hard to come by.

J-Protege

So, in a battle to the death, what would win KYB GR-2 struts, or Tokico HPs?

I can get both for a very similar price.

JoshP5

HP smokes a cigarette; lifeless GR-2 a bloody mess.

_Kansei_

KYB GR-2s are disgusting

(actually they really aren't, but they're no better than whatever you have right now)

J-Protege

Hahaha, awesome. Good to know, I hate trying to look into these thing online, because most reviews come from vendors who have nothing but great things to say about any product they sell.

aMaff

well, they are compared to HPs

J-Protege

OK, so after checking about a dozen websites, seem no one has the info.

Does anyone know what the spring stats (stiffness, progressive/linear) are of the springs that ship with Tokico's HP kit. The kit seems to be sold everywhere, but beside the drop amount, I can't find any info on them.

Since they come with the Tokico HPs, I'm assuming they are Tokico springs, but that's all I know about them.

Thanks guys, for any info.

_Kansei_

they may be compared but they don't really compare from everything I've read. They are stock replacements at best

JoshP5

Tokico handling kit springs
front: 185 lb/in,
rear: 145-200 lb/in.