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amrit September-10th-2005 11:02 AM

Injectors cleaned but there is still a problem
 
Ok so the car was not workin' as it should and I found out that the injectors were very dirty. Got 'em cleaned but there is still some problem with the car.
The problem was that I was not gettin' all the speed from the car. When I am in 4th gear, it goes to 140km but as soon as I shift into 5th, it slows down to 120km. Also on mornings the pedal used to be very stiff. Just recently before I cleaned the injectors, the car broke down, all of a sudden I lost all power and the car stalled. So now the injectors are cleaned and I am gettin' all the speed from the car, the 180km. However, one morning while I was dropping my sis to work, ac on, it just stalled and when I restarted, the car was shakin'. I got it started and turn off the ac and the car started workin' as normal. So I thought the ac was causin' a problem. Went to the mechanic and told him what happened and told him what I did, turned off ac etc...and he said that it seems to be an electrical problem and that I should go by an electrician and have him sort it out. Now I know it's not an electrical problem because this mornging I drove the car without ac and as soon as I slowed down, when I reached the city, the car was buckin' badly. I had lost power but not all. The car was shakin' and it was workin' like before the injectors were cleaned, but this only happened a few times when the injectors were dirty.

Then after drivin' slowly through traffic for about 15mins, it was back to normal. I got back all power and the car was as fast as it should be.

Now could this be a problem of over reving the engine when you're in a gear? Because I think I was doin' like 160km on 4th. I really need to get a tach, there isn't one in the dash.

Roddimus Prime September-10th-2005 02:06 PM

how did you clean the injectors?? Did you rebalance them mechanically or did you pour cleaner in the tank? There is a HUGE difference. I can have all 4 of my injectors rebuilt and rebalanced for about $65usd.

I would check to see if the AC compressor is locked up...this is common and will kill an engine

amrit September-10th-2005 02:46 PM

Well I didn't clean them the mechanic did. It cost me $300 which is about $50usd. He said he took them out and cleaned them.

How would I go about checkin' the AC compressor to see if it's locked up? I would like to do this myself because I hate havin' to go by the mechanic all the time for things that I could just do myself. What tools would I need etc? Can I even do this myself?

zerocover September-10th-2005 05:08 PM

Wait I know that feeling.
Does it buck and have alot of problems getting up to speed, like to 3k. If in a few days you throw a cel and its listed as )2 sensor bank one your maf is dead.

Could just be the car is still learning from an ecu reset it should be a pain for a day or so.

amrit September-10th-2005 05:46 PM

Well it only happened once today and I was doin' some heavy numbers then when I slowed down about a few minutes after it started to buck for about 15mins then it was back to normal. Now I don't have a tach and I was doin' like 160km on 4th, is that bad? I'm tryin' to get a tach with a shift light. Any suggetions on which tach?

94protolx September-11th-2005 01:14 PM

my car was doing that I had a hole somewhere in my intake and it would just not do anything and it would shake and shutter

Rusty September-11th-2005 10:14 PM

Maybe you have water in your gas. When we had a run on gas and the stations ran out, I had a stalling problem with my Galant. I was pumping when the station's tank ran dry. Crap! It cleared up after a few days though. You can buy an alcohol product that will absorb water pretty good.

Da P-Funk! September-12th-2005 07:22 AM

Amrit-
To check if the a/c is 'locked up' - pull the accy belt. Try to turnt he compressor by hand. It should turn easily. It operates on an electric clutch. The computer has a input telling it he a/c comp is 'engaged' and it bumps the idle up to compensate.

W/o a CEL your problem sounds more basic/mechanical. Listen for vacuum leaks, check your plugs. Could your cat converters be clogged up? In Trini do you have unleaded fuel? Leaded fuel over time will clog them...

Keep posting info!

amrit September-12th-2005 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by zerocover
Wait I know that feeling.
Does it buck and have alot of problems getting up to speed, like to 3k. If in a few days you throw a cel and its listed as )2 sensor bank one your maf is dead.

Could just be the car is still learning from an ecu reset it should be a pain for a day or so.

I think this is the problem. I drove the car yestersday. I took it for a long run. I was actually goin' to the drag strip and I passed it and kept drivin' for a little while until I decided to turn back and go to the strip. I actually passed it twice mainly because I hardly ever go there so I didn't really know where it was. Anyways, I took my time while headin' down there but on my way back I was gunning it and I didn't have a problem, no buckin', no stallin', nothing went wrong, it ran just fine.


Originally Posted by Rusty
Maybe you have water in your gas.

I'm startin' to use a fuel treatment at every fill up. I use cv100. I was a bit skeptical about these things a while now but recently a guuy who knows cars told me which one to use. The car actually runs a little better with it, because I had the problem and I put the treatment in and it worked great.


Originally Posted by Da P-Funk!
W/o a CEL your problem sounds more basic/mechanical. Listen for vacuum leaks, check your plugs. Could your cat converters be clogged up? In Trini do you have unleaded fuel? Leaded fuel over time will clog them...

I recently changed my plug wires and spark plus so I know that's not the problem. I took out my cat a while now because we're not required to have that here in Trinidad and it's actually recommended to take them off. And we have unleaded fuel here. I used to run leaded but switched to unleaded a long time now. However our gas here is of very poor quality. We export gas but we get the scrapin' of the barrel. The good gas goes to you guys and other 1st world countries. I'm also not very mechanically inclined so I wouldn't be able to: "To check if the a/c is 'locked up' - pull the accy belt. Try to turnt he compressor by hand. It should turn easily. It operates on an electric clutch. The computer has a input telling it he a/c comp is 'engaged' and it bumps the idle up to compensate."

Da P-Funk! September-13th-2005 07:12 AM

Sounds like it is ok for now. Some problems DO fix themselves!

(Thanks for the good gas! :))

amrit September-13th-2005 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by Da P-Funk!
Sounds like it is ok for now. Some problems DO fix themselves!

(Thanks for the good gas! :))


Yeah I haven't had any problems lately and I have done exactly the same with the car when it was givin' trouble. A/C turned up to all, driving the car to it's full potential (180km) and no problems.

You're welcome, I just wish we could actually see the profits from it. We get back so much money from exporting gas but we don't actually see it. Where does it all go? Anyway, that's another story on it's own with the government, LOL.

94protolx September-13th-2005 10:40 PM

yeh the whole gas thing sucks you in trinidad get crappy gas, we get the good stuff but have to pay out the a$$ for it. I just spent like 40 US to fill up my tank. Danged MSP

Glad it worked out for you. BTW how much do you pay for your gas down there?

amrit September-14th-2005 02:14 PM

We pay like $3 a liter which is like .50US. You guys pay like $3USD a liter right?

I did spend like $180 once to fill up my tank. Aparrently it was quite dry and I didn't even know. My friggin' fuel gauge isn't workin' properly.

94protolx September-14th-2005 05:16 PM

we pay like 3 a gallon

amrit September-15th-2005 05:06 PM

Oh man! This morning was frightening! The car started to lose power again. I knew it wasn't goin' to stall but I had to drive like I was drivin' miss daisy. it probably lasted foor about 5-10mins.

My fuel guage isn't workin' but I knew that my gas tank was real low. I headed home before I went for a fill up because I didn't have any fuel treatment in the car. When I got home, I opened the gas lid to pour in the treatment and I heard this hissing noise. Air was escaping. Is this a normal thing?

Anyway I got my fuel and I didn't have any problems after that. But Do you guuys think that this happens because I was runnin low on fuel?


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