leungwingkei

Or they should offer it as an option, since the Focus SVT has optional HID too.

MazdaspeedZOOM

I think that I'm going to go with the Mad Catz HID system in my car. I think that would just look sick on my mazdaspeed.

kc5zom

Last quality survey I saw (don't remember who but it wasn't that crappy JD Powers one that rated the Mini bad for cupholders and the H2 bad for gas mileage) rated Hyundai just below Honda and Toyota (Toyota was highest). Mazda tied with Chrysler, BMW, and VW.

Farsyde

maybe it's my prejudices but something about hyundai's just doesnt sit right with me. It'll take many years of quality cars to change my mind.

gcs118

There is no way Mazda tied with Chrysler. Maybe BMW and VW, ok, but Chrysler?! I can't believe that...

DJ_ALFA

well it seems like a really nonsence survey to me, to me mazda iz much better than Chrysler, and about the same with VW but BMW is definetly better than all of the cars listed above, no honda or toyota can compete with BMW
just my 2 cents

kc5zom

It was Consumer Reports. I just found that article in AMI again.

gcs118

If it was just consumer reports, that would include many automotively uneducated people as well. Like on the reviews for the H2, the people wondered why it got poor gas mileage. Many consumers don't know the basics that we take for granted.

kc5zom

That was JD Powers to my memory, not Consumer Reports.

kc5zom

Honda and Toyota are the benchmarks for quality in case you have been sleeping in a ditch for the past two decades (sometime you might go look at an Accord or Camry and find out why, build quality and materials are excellent). BMW's are great, but they aren't immune to QC problems (ask an M3 owner). Some of those issues over the past couple of years have been pretty severe. And of course when you buy a BMW you get the funny ergonomics that goes with it. VW has had their fun issues with the ignition coils and build quality has been slipping. Mazda was in the upper group of the survey that most people utilize when purchasing their vehicles, even if it is flawed. Guess what? Mercedes was one of the worst, and after this weekend I can believe it. For such expensive cars they had numerous issues with build quality.

Scarmiglio

Yah, most of the German brands have terrific build quality (by which I mean quality interior, tight tolerances, solidly and safely built, etc....), but lots of "bugs." It can get pretty costly once the car is out of warranty. I had a friend with a BMW who constantly had to bring it in for minor fixes. After a $550-quote to replace the motor for the driver-side power window, she got rid of the car.