well i would love to see this project move along. how much you want for the racing harts?

not much but shipping would be HIGH because they are fairly heavy. I think I may have a local buyer but if it falls through I can let you know.

anarchist, why did you delete your post?

so matty whats your plans with this bigger/smaller option. both using the powerdyne head units? Explain :D

he posted in the wrong thread....Miller was on roofies when he posted.

The 2 kits are basically a 6psi kit and a 9psi kit. I've been working with Powerdyne pretty closely the past few days and their internal development team was sharing with me what they've done on their new 1.6L civic kit. We were comparing notes and they told me that the BD-6 kit produces almost NO increase in air temps. It's not driven off exhaust gas, requires no engine oil, and no coolant and is internally driven off a kevlar Gates belt. The only heat added to the intake is from the slight amount of friction caused by the impeller. They show only a 30* increase in inlet charge temps. For the 6psi kit I don't feel an intercooler will be needed. I will however make this an option for those wishing to intercool. On the 9psi kit it will be included.

I'm trying to make this kit as affordable as possible and I think I'll be able to hit the best price point by making the intercooler an option. Also, anyone who purchases the 6psi kit will be able to upgrade to the 9psi kit for about $850. That will include the new pulley, intercooler and plumbing. It's hard to buy an intercooler for that price and the pulley's cost me about $97.

This is really shaping up to be a great project and I have some big news in the next few weeks and dare I say it.......pictures. There is still a chance I could have it finished in time for me to show it off at NOPI. I'm not holding my breath but if all goes well then a lot of you may get to see the first daily driven supercharged Protege5. :blue:

simply, badass!

:nod:

sorry im still curious but can't find the post I needed in the midst of the 10+ pages.

I remember you saying the original intercooled kit would have similar CFM rating/power output as a .__trim t3 turbo at 15psi. Was this tentative configuration the intercooled kit @ 9psi? If that is the case, just ballparking, I am guessing that is around 220-240 whp??

What numbers are you estimating between the two kits?

Have you mentioned the downshifting/head unit failure issue to powerdyne? I'm not extremely concerned about it, but I am definetly interested in what they have to say.

Also what are you planning to do (personally, on your P5) with the exhaust? I read you had the OBX header and were happy with the cleanance, etc, but are you planning on running 2.5" exhaust? Cats or no?


sorry for all the questions,
you got me hooked :)

Finally found someone to work with ya huh....good!

You guys hear it here first.....I'm shipping out the first blower to DaveB (maker of the famous gauge rings and shorty antennas) so he can design the bracketry needed for everything. He's on vacation for a week so I'm expecting to have the blower back on my motor in about 3 weeks. I really want to get this done in time for NOPI but funds are real low for me right now.

Milmoejoe, yeah, I've spoken with several people at powerdyne. The problem everyone is having with the belts breaking is on the BD-11A. I'm using the BD-600. What they are doing is running higher than 9psi (not recommended by manufacturer). The SC has an internal "step-up" gear drive and these guys are spinning the impeller faster than the bearings can keep up and the bearings drag causing the belt to snap. This is good and bad. Bad because now you have to pull the head and buy a new belt for about $100. Good because a SC car will drive just like it did before the blower in the event the blower belt breaks. What this means is if you break the belt or lose the bearing pack then your car will drive like stock. You're not going to be walking. Gates makes a full Kevlar belt upgrade for about $120 but you won't need it with my kit. The BD-600 blower running 6-9psi will last over 50K miles before ever needing servicing. At that point you're looking at $200 for a full rebuild. While it's somewhat expensive it's nothing compared to the added maintaince of a turbo and the cost of a turbo rebuild.

I plan on replacing my midpipe with a catless piece from Wagner. He still does amazing work and has been crapped out since Nick left him hanging. I'm also just going to stick to a nice smooth 2.5" catback after that. I'll have a 4-1 header and afull 2.5" cat-less exhaust with all mendrel bends...very un-restrictive exhaust. I'm thinking the Racing Beat exhaust.

Also, on a side note. I'm having a hard time finding couplers that match for the piping. The problem is that the blower has a 3.5" inlet and 3" outlet. Since the MAF and TB are small running 3" piping is a waste. I plan on using 2.5" thrroughout. The problem is my silicone hose is blue while the reducers are grey. I wanted everything to match but to buy reducers in the same blue will cost me almost $60 a piece. That's just a waste of money as far as I'm concerned. Any comments on this?

boost is boost, regardless of what color couplers you use....thats my take on it

I agree but no'one wants something that looks pieced together.

I believe i'd spend the extra money to get a kit that complemented the engine bay

for instance, cosmetically, the hiboost vs. wagner-hiboost wins hands down

eh, I dont know about that.....but anyway.

the cost difference is HUGE. I had no idea people tried to charge this much for couplers. I've been using the cheap stuff on my pinto and it works fine. I'm talking $60-70 for one coupler (reducer)....thats insane.

yup....i dunno, personally my hood's shut unless I've got a problem or discussing a mod....but if peeps want to pay for car color matching couplers, let em spend the $$....

i guess they can just buy them online like I can.... oh well.