03 mazdaspeed protege
July-30th-2007, 03:33 PM
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03 mazdaspeed protege
im new to the whole mazda world. i owned a oo civic si, but it was stolen and stipped. now i own a o3.5 silver mazdaspeed protege 32000 mi. right now its stock and has factory warranty til Nov. 2007 and a extended for 4 more years. what performane mods can i do with out voiding the warranty? if anyone can help it will be much appriciated. thank jeremy.
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July-30th-2007, 03:46 PM
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Welcome to the site! Where do you live?
Performance mods without voiding the warranty? ha! Well it depends.. the factory warranty was 3 years 50k miles (unless it was more on the Mazdaspeed model).
Oh oh.. I'm going to totally ruin your day with this one: If you go over 200whp you will blow up your engine unless you drop thousands of dollars on a full standalone ECU. Even then, I wouldn't push it much past that at all. you'll shoot a rod straight through the iron block :P
are you crying now? lol was that too mean? Oh well, you had to find out about the gremlin of your car somehow.
Performance mods without voiding the warranty? ha! Well it depends.. the factory warranty was 3 years 50k miles (unless it was more on the Mazdaspeed model).
Oh oh.. I'm going to totally ruin your day with this one: If you go over 200whp you will blow up your engine unless you drop thousands of dollars on a full standalone ECU. Even then, I wouldn't push it much past that at all. you'll shoot a rod straight through the iron block :P
are you crying now? lol was that too mean? Oh well, you had to find out about the gremlin of your car somehow.
July-30th-2007, 04:57 PM
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Nice! It's probably in the For Sale section already.
MSP is a great little car. It'll out-handle almost anything in it's class without
modification.
And you can still have some fun modding. Just be careful and we won't have to add you to zoom-zoom-boom club.
MSP is a great little car. It'll out-handle almost anything in it's class without
modification.
And you can still have some fun modding. Just be careful and we won't have to add you to zoom-zoom-boom club.
Welcome to the site! Where do you live?
Performance mods without voiding the warranty? ha! Well it depends.. the factory warranty was 3 years 50k miles (unless it was more on the Mazdaspeed model).
Oh oh.. I'm going to totally ruin your day with this one: If you go over 200whp you will blow up your engine unless you drop thousands of dollars on a full standalone ECU. Even then, I wouldn't push it much past that at all. you'll shoot a rod straight through the iron block :P
are you crying now? lol was that too mean? Oh well, you had to find out about the gremlin of your car somehow.
Performance mods without voiding the warranty? ha! Well it depends.. the factory warranty was 3 years 50k miles (unless it was more on the Mazdaspeed model).
Oh oh.. I'm going to totally ruin your day with this one: If you go over 200whp you will blow up your engine unless you drop thousands of dollars on a full standalone ECU. Even then, I wouldn't push it much past that at all. you'll shoot a rod straight through the iron block :P
are you crying now? lol was that too mean? Oh well, you had to find out about the gremlin of your car somehow.
July-31st-2007, 02:22 PM
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im new to the whole mazda world. i owned a oo civic si, but it was stolen and stipped. now i own a o3.5 silver mazdaspeed protege, right now its stock and has factory warranty for 4 more years. what performane mods can i do with out voiding the warranty? if anyone can help it will be much appriciated. thank jeremy.
As far as performance mods, it usually varies from dealer to dealer. But, if they can attribute a failure to a mod that you installed, then the repair will not be covered. In other words, if your engine blows and you have installed lowering springs, you are probably safe. But if it blows and you had installed a turbo upgrade, they will probably deny your claim. Some people get around that by keeping the stock part, and when something goes wrong, put the stock part back on.
July-31st-2007, 10:08 PM
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im new to the whole mazda world. i owned a oo civic si, but it was stolen and stipped. now i own a o3.5 silver mazdaspeed protege, right now its stock and has factory warranty for 4 more years. what performane mods can i do with out voiding the warranty? if anyone can help it will be much appriciated. thank jeremy.
Your MSP already has a lot of good suspension parts on it, but you might want some good springs and struts. Tein S, Espelir, or Tanabe GF springs with Tokico struts would be nice, and wouldn't likely get you into warranty trouble.
If you get rear swaybar clunk (common problem), the best fix is the AXR swaybar mount relocation kit: a little spendy but it gets rave reviews.
Let us know how it goes!
August-1st-2007, 08:26 AM
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Right i understand what you are saying. do you know if a cat-back and maybe some better tuning or header will cause any problems with a warranty. mainly concerned with a cat-back, using 50 state emmissions legal high flow cat, or the stock cat. thanks. by the way my factory exp. nov. 07. car has only 32000 mi. thanks again for the advice.
August-1st-2007, 08:34 AM
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A cat-back.. doesn't even replace the cat so you're golden.. aside from the fact that there's a few states that say that any modifications whatsoever not using original equipment parts are illegal (CT, MA, NY, CA, etc)
August-2nd-2007, 03:13 PM
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Yeah see, I am somewhat new to this club as well. I owned a 94 Protege back a couple years ago but thanks to some mods I did, I kept throwing spark plugs left and right. I'd redrill them in and there they'd go again. So after a few years, I saw a Mazdaspeed for sale at a dealer, the rest was history. She is in the shop currently though. I had a Service Engine light appear and I found out it was a code P2006. The shutter vavle or some ****. Anyhow, I get the results today on how long a fix that's going to be. I seem to realize that the MSP is quite a needy little car. As I told my other GF(the human one) I just can't resist the styling of this car. I mean, it could have a shitbox underneath the hood, I'd still drive it.
August-2nd-2007, 03:16 PM
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Yeah see, I am somewhat new to this club as well. I owned a 94 Protege back a couple years ago but thanks to some mods I did, I kept throwing spark plugs left and right. I'd redrill them in and there they'd go again. So after a few years, I saw a Mazdaspeed for sale at a dealer, the rest was history. She is in the shop currently though. I had a Service Engine light appear and I found out it was a code P2006. The shutter vavle or some ****. Anyhow, I get the results today on how long a fix that's going to be. I seem to realize that the MSP is quite a needy little car. As I told my other GF(the human one) I just can't resist the styling of this car. I mean, it could have a shitbox underneath the hood, I'd still drive it.
August-3rd-2007, 08:09 AM
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I'm not tryin to get the kids hopes up. They are amazing cars, I friggin love them and can't find a better car to replace it with (within any reasonable budget) so Mazda definitely did a LOT right. What they didn't do right at all was the engine, simple enough. They were like "well this is a derivative of the 626 chassis so lets just plop the engine from the base model 626 in it.. you know, that engine we've been using since.. 1993" 10 friggin years of FS (not fs-de.. because the de means it's distributorless, and I think that only came about at the end of the 90s).
Then the 3 comes out and gets mzr lovin.. I'd pay decent money just to have the 2.0 mzr in my car srsly.
My real plan though is to punish my fs-de until it squirts oil out all over the place and then buy an old miata as a daily while I KL-ZE v6 swap my P5.. then when that is done, turbo said Miata
Then the 3 comes out and gets mzr lovin.. I'd pay decent money just to have the 2.0 mzr in my car srsly.
My real plan though is to punish my fs-de until it squirts oil out all over the place and then buy an old miata as a daily while I KL-ZE v6 swap my P5.. then when that is done, turbo said Miata
August-3rd-2007, 09:01 AM
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Mazda's main problem was getting in bed with Ford.
One of my most painful moments in my P5 ownership was in Autozone buying liquid gasket for my oil pan. The helpful employee asked me if I drove a Ford - "I drive a Mazda," I corrected him. "Oh same thing" was his cheerful response. Ouch. At least it doesn't look like a Ford.
One of my most painful moments in my P5 ownership was in Autozone buying liquid gasket for my oil pan. The helpful employee asked me if I drove a Ford - "I drive a Mazda," I corrected him. "Oh same thing" was his cheerful response. Ouch. At least it doesn't look like a Ford.
August-3rd-2007, 09:18 AM
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SAME THING? nooo!!!
jesus I hate it.. our cars were made in Hiroshima, by japanese workers, with a japanese design.
Isn't the only made-in-america Mazda the 6 (non mazdaspeed models)? IIRC they are made on the Mustang assembly line (those are some talented robots right there). Plus they have a duratec engine with a different head on it.
Our cars are all japan.. I've never found a u.s. labeled part on the thing. Plus they rust like an early 90s Corolla so it's clear that it's japan all the way :P
Just because Ford owns 33% of Mazda doesn't mean it's the same thing.
jesus I hate it.. our cars were made in Hiroshima, by japanese workers, with a japanese design.
Isn't the only made-in-america Mazda the 6 (non mazdaspeed models)? IIRC they are made on the Mustang assembly line (those are some talented robots right there). Plus they have a duratec engine with a different head on it.
Our cars are all japan.. I've never found a u.s. labeled part on the thing. Plus they rust like an early 90s Corolla so it's clear that it's japan all the way :P
Just because Ford owns 33% of Mazda doesn't mean it's the same thing.
August-3rd-2007, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by wikipedia
FS
It should be noted that the FS engine is totally unrelated to the earlier F series engines with the exception of a similar name and capacity.
The 2.0L (1991 cm³) FS was one of the last F-family engines. With an 83 mm bore and 92 mm stroke, it produced 130hp (97kW) and 135lb/ft (183nm). In 1998 the engine underwent several changes, most notably a distributorless ignition version known as the FS-DE. Japan also received a higher-performance version, known as the FS-ZE. A special version of the FS was produced in 2003 for the Mazdaspeed Protegé which was turbocharged, and generated 170hp (127kW) and 160lb/ft (217nm).
Applications:
* 1993-2002 Mazda 626
* 1993-1997 Mazda MX-6
* 1999-2001 Mazda MPV (Japan)
* 1999-2003 Mazda Capella
* 2001-2003 Mazda Protegé
* 2003 Mazdaspeed Protegé
* 1993-1997 Ford Probe
It should be noted that the FS engine is totally unrelated to the earlier F series engines with the exception of a similar name and capacity.
The 2.0L (1991 cm³) FS was one of the last F-family engines. With an 83 mm bore and 92 mm stroke, it produced 130hp (97kW) and 135lb/ft (183nm). In 1998 the engine underwent several changes, most notably a distributorless ignition version known as the FS-DE. Japan also received a higher-performance version, known as the FS-ZE. A special version of the FS was produced in 2003 for the Mazdaspeed Protegé which was turbocharged, and generated 170hp (127kW) and 160lb/ft (217nm).
Applications:
* 1993-2002 Mazda 626
* 1993-1997 Mazda MX-6
* 1999-2001 Mazda MPV (Japan)
* 1999-2003 Mazda Capella
* 2001-2003 Mazda Protegé
* 2003 Mazdaspeed Protegé
* 1993-1997 Ford Probe
They have your car confused with the Mazda3, where ford has the "Duratec 20" 2.0 based off the Mazda MZR 2.0 from the base Mazda3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Du...ine#Duratec_20
And even then it's not that the Mazdas have Ford engines, it's the other way around..
Beginning in 2004, Ford dropped the old 4-cylinder Zetec engines in favor of Mazda's MZR design. Thus, 2005 and present Duratec 4-cylinder engines are Mazdas. This includes the 2.0 L Duratec 20 and 2.3 L Duratec 23. The engine is currently built by Ford in Chihuahua, Mexico, Dearborn, Michigan, Valencia, Spain and Nanjing, China.