Mazda MP3-P5 chips/tuners
 

http://www.fordchip.com/

He says he can do both for us. He does good work. I had one of his fOCUS chips. E-mail him to find out more.

my ford chip guy says he's never done one but thinks it's possible.....this guy has no mention of ever having done one on his site and knows for a fact he can?? sounds fishy.

He'd need an ecu and a test car to even set this up...who lives near there? If it's a ture P&P chip we'd need a baseline dyno (3pulls on freshly reset ecu), then the tune (best you can get). Pull the chip, get another baseline, install the chip and do the final 3 pulls. This will show you exactly what kind of gains you're getting.

Someone is going to have to rent a dyno out for probably a half day and pay for his travel and what-not.

sounds good...but where's his proof that he can make any kind of power with our ecus??

iirc, this is exactly what I mentioned was just re-flashing the ecu with a handheld tool....but you've got to do some dyno tuning first to see what needs to be adjusted!

I'm going to be weary on this one. This guy seems more interested in talking $$$ than talking gains. That's not a good sign in my book.

Matt if you're a member overthere, tell him he'll get a lot more hits over here and on MSprotege.

in all honesty I dont think he can do any of the older protege ecu's.....he may have good success with the newer mazda3 and 6 ecu's but I don't think he's got any experience with the actual tuning of the ecu.

Anyone advertising a product for sale like this would have SOME kind of dyno chart or detailed information.

All I know is that the fOCUS chip I got of him is great, and he has tuned some unusual combos. A lot of v-6 Ford and fOCUS guys swear by him. It was the best chip I have EVER had. If there is enough tax money left, I will try him.

Hmm, subbing to see where this leads...

yeah, if he does good ford work, thats awesome....the problem is our ecu only uses ford PARTS...not ford mapping.

p.s. see if he's got a good chip for a 1990 SHO with full exhaust, cai and P&Pintake manifold with big bore butterflies.

Yeah Matty said it right, our ECU's are encoded by Mazda specificaly to avoid modification, but Fords are set up to allow it.

Wouldn't it be lovely....wake me up when it's been accomplished :zzzzz:

He is offering to let me be the guinnea pig if we can work out some dyno before and after. I'll let you know something.

Hey not to thread jack or anything, but whats wrong with a jet chip?? Will it not do anything for us, or what. Cause i was looking into one but I know how our cars are all kinds of messed with up with not being able to change alternators because of the ecu and the spark plug deal. So just curious. Thanks.

jet chip is a scam. they dont do anything.

Is there anyone in Michigan who wants to have him give it a try? Contact him. My location is going to be a problem.

Check out what is going on here:

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showt...7&page=1&pp=15

Looks like more of the same, although if he's got someone to test it on, good for everyone.

yeah...i'll do cartwheels just as soon as SOME proof of success is given.

then we'll need someone to do it for the 3.

I thought I could help the Protege community by getting the ball rolling on something. Just think, if either Roddimus's guy or this gentleman can become successful, then the world will change for all of us. For the HP even the most radical MSPs are making, the EEC-V is PLENTY! There are many 600-800whp Cobras running the streets with this ECU and some tuning.

What do you mean they dont do anything. Like every little gains, or like they dont do nothing at all. And pretty much are throwing away money?

about the JET chip...no'one has EVER (for any car) produced conclusive before and after dyno's showing they make ANY power.

Matt, I agree ford ecu's are awesome for tuning....almost anyone can do it..easily...Mazda ecu' are NOT the same though even though they use some ford Hardware. Look at RX7's, Miatas and us...no'one uses anything but standalones and the RX7's and miatas have a CULT-LIKE following...plenty of money to be had with those owners and still nothing.

Matty, have you been to the jet website before. Because the dyno sheets are there. Heres the address to help you, http://www.jetchip.com/dyno.asp. Now they dont give info on a protege of anything. But they do give results from RSX'S GSR'S, trucks, etc etc. All they give is info on MX3 MX6 323 626 Miata's and on down the road. They do give a dyno sheet for a ford probe which basically almost has the same engine as does the p5. Then if you go into the import information it gives you specifically car by car the HP gains and what they did to the cars to acheive those results. So i guess i just dont see why your saying no conclusive dyno sheets from stock to jet has ever been proven, when its on the website lol. IDK Maybe im wrong, but check it out if you want. Its at least worth that. Later.

I meant independent testing. no private owner has tested their vehicle, installed the chip and re-tested at the same time.

I've so many shadey dynos and unreliable testing methods used to sell products. I don't believe anything (hardly) unless I trust it's source.

p.s. I've been into semi-heavy racing for 10+ years and no'one I've ever run with in any circle has ever used a JET product. If they were so good everyone and their mother would be using them and posting their gains. Real mods cost money unfortunately and you get what you pay for.

I proposed a long time ago that everyone chip into a forum pool and I'd buy and test every product you guys wanted very strictly....no'one was up for it. I'm still game. E-rams, CAI vs SRI, S-aFC's, stock vs single manifolds, obx vs awr headers.....i'm just not going to pay for everything!

p.s. dude....look at what they call a dyno...
http://www.jetchip.com/pdf/dyno/chev...avilier_24.pdf

That's some bogus graph they drew up to show a PERFECT gain across all rpms....that doesn't happen.

Where is their torque curve? Where is their AFR's?


Besides everyone knows mustang dynos are the least accurate of all modern chasis dynos. I think a stock protege dyno's like 132whp on one....someone posted that graph and I almost cried laughing.

Hehe, nice "Dyno".
Maybe I can just do that for the Thunder header. That'll shut everyone up!.
Whaddya think, 15whp gain?

nah, might as well go all out and make it like 20hp / dollar.

Only if I can get some stickers. I don't wanna mislead anyone, lol.

Make sure the stickers are really big and have nothing to do with the car whatsoever.

You mean, like, get a big "Type R" sticker for my windsheild?

I remember (oh so long ago) when we got one of the first "chips" for the fOCUS. Those lucky bastages got their codes cracked like 6 years ago :mad: I just don't see it happening for us anytime soon...although I do have my regular P5 ecu lying around and would be glad to donate it for scientific testing purposes ;)

Hehe, 'bastages'.

Does anyone even remember Johnny Dangerously...

Sorry to go OT....

Besides, they spelled Cavalier wrong.

:)

Beta testing is supposed to begin sometime this week.

good maybe he'll have some proof one way or the other.

Yay for beta testing.

LOL I saw that too :101384_l:

just wanted to let everyone know....there's been no updates...no progress....no proof yet.

hmm, wonder why.

I'm checking today.

BTW, don't blame me. I'm just trying to help us all out.

I'm not blaming you....this is just a little pre-emptive..."told ya so".

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