chdesign

Actually dude yeah you did start it and I'm going to drop it at that. As far as you can do what I can do. Well thats great but I've said it before ANYONE can slap on a Nitrous kit but how much good is your N2O in the twistys?????????

chdesign

OK OK I'm sucking it up and i'm dropping it now

TurboTodd

Patio- Are they going to put it on a bench and test the intake before and after? I'd be interested in the flow numbers the intake makes..

And home porters.. it's not rocket science, but if you get greedy or don't measure twice, cut once, you can end up screwing things up royally.. Uneven flow, etc..

And chdesign.. don't worry, it'll rain in Houston again soon, and we'll be back for Chapter 3 of the story..

T

99proES

You guys are funny

Dont we have a flame tread around here somewhere. If not we should make one. I like reading peolpe bickering.

Traveler

I haven't seen any exterior differences other than there are no holes drilled for the VTC on the MP3 manifold. I think you're thinking about the variable intake control. I'm talking about the variable tumble control that's right next to the ports on our cars. The MP3 only has one control soleniod and no VTC or any holes for it. It's attached to the upper intake right next to the intake ports on the head. It's what makes our motors sound like a diesel when cold.

I'm thinking about removing it, tapping and plugging the holes, and seeing what happens on the dyno. It's a restriction in the intake right before the head. I would think that I would gain power everywhere since I'd be removing a restriction. It remains to be seen. I'll take it apart soon and see what I think. I may take a pic or two when I do. I still have to put my Greddy e-manage on. I just got switched from working M-F to Tues.-Sat. so I won't be able to do it until Monday probably. Good news is that I got hold of Greddy and they said to ignore the hook up drawing that came with the support tool set. We DO NOT need a limiting resistor on the MAF circuit. That was just for J-spec cars. Also, I have the rotary switch settings if anyone else decides to go this route.

chdesign

Just a pointer for you Patio if you do get a Port and Polish make sure that the Flow test it. If one cylinder flows more than another you will most likely end up with one cylinder lean and if you are spraying this is especially bad.....Fuel Injectred Port and Polish isn't like a carb 4 banger where you can pretty much whip out the dremel tool and go at it.....to do it right you HAVE to have a flow bench in order to match every port which is one of the purposes of P&P.......oh yeah 100 bucks you must really know someone well it cost me close to 600 for mine but that was also with a 3 angle valve job.

njaremka

here is a picture of the tumblers found on the 2001+ miata intake. i would suspect that the protege manifold is similar.

http://members.aol.com/solomiata2/01intake2001.jpg

Sil_Pro5

Hey, wait a sec.... those plates look as if they are screwed on w/ two screws and if so, then why not just unscrew them and take-em' off? I know there will still be a rod or something on which they swivel that is "impeding" the airflow but......would it REALLY be that significant? I mean, unless one is really changing the size of the ports, it really wouldnt matter-or am i wrong here?

I just think that it would be much easier to only have to remove those plates rather than tapp and plug holes and the such.

c/j

njaremka

sounds good to me.

kakarot

I think I remember seeing SCC mag try that on a project miata and they ended up losing a lot of low and mid range torque.

njaremka

was it the VTC or the VICS? they are two completely different things.

kakarot

Here's the link to the article.


http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/pr...scc_projmiata/

njaremka

yeah, thier project miata is a 99, which only has the VICS system on it. mazda put the VTS on the 01+ miata intake manifolds. the VTS is a totally different animal compared to the VICS.

Traveler

It needs to go. I'll have to see about taking the manifold off and plugging the holes.