I know quite a few of you have this. There is a bit of a backorder on them now but i would like to know what kind of opinions you all have of them. Pros? Cons? I basically want it for the look, the shifter stock in the '02 ES (and P5) is HUGE. Extra performance would be nice too. TIA!

 

If you're going for the look only then I'd suggest the Kartboy as it is slightly shorter than the B&M. However, the B&M reduces the throw more. I have the B&M and I couldn't be happier with it. It is well made and makes shifting a lot of fun. Throw in a set of Kartboy bushings to round out the upgrade!

 

well said! I love the b&m w/ the kartboy bushings. However it does look stock heigth but i went w/ b&m for two reasons. Name credability and shorter throw. A must for all pro's try protege5online for it.

 

it does'nt look that much shorter. does it feel better? yes. is the throw shorter? heck yes. i would'nt buy one for the looks though..... you may be dissapointed.

 

YES....get one of these over all the others. if nothing else....its build quality is equaled by NONE. The B&M is a one piece design, none of the others are.

it IS in fact shorter by 1 1/2 inches....the throw is shorter by about 40% Here is a picture of the stocker next to the B&M



It takes about an hour to install and the stock **** will screw right on.

I highly recommend the B&M.

 

i just bought it today...but i cant put it cuz none of the shops have time to do it...i guess i have to wait till next week....

 

The B & M short shifter is the best addition to my car for the money.

 

Hmmmm, well here is the thing....i live in Canada....so im not sure if i can get Kartboy.

BUT, the main reason i am getting it is the look....i REALLY want the look of a short shifter......so if Kartboy will give me the look and just not the qualit backing then i might want that.

Plus Kartboy shifter AND bushings is $150 CDN........B&M Shifter only is $200

 

If all you want is the look of the short shifter, why not just cut your current one? I had actually done this while I was waiting for my B&M to arrive. I had it about 4" shorter than stock. Not only did I remove the extension, but I actually cut the remaining lever with a hacksaw. It looked pretty neat, but I still prefer the B&M for the feel.

 

At the Oceanside meet I hade the B&M and another person had the kartboy shifter. Everyone was going back an fourth testing each one. The B&M was the tightest shortest shifter. If you want the look and the feel buy the B&M and cut is shorter, and have the best of both worlds. I got mine from Mitch.

 

i have the kartboy SS+SB and i live in calgary AB, CANADA, installed it myself, and i COULDN"T be happier, yes its about 200 dollars after customs rapes you but its worth it. i also have a momo combat shifter and it looks and feels very nice imo here is a picture



you can order the shifter from tokigiracing.com if you live in canada or you can email tom@kartboy.com for instructions.. he will tell you how to get them

 

I haven't heard anyone's input on the TWM Short Shifter.

http://www.twmperformance.com/

Where do you live?

 

Only info on it I have seen is here.

 

I think our Vancouver club is going to have a group buy. You should get in on it Toru, and we could ship it out to you once it comes in.

 

TWM IT IS! That is exactly the look i was going for. The review on it is good as well.

I live in Chilliwack.....so 45 mins away from Richmond. If there is a group buy going on i really really want in on it.

Anyway, i want it, i might pick it up Friday.

Thanks for the info!