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Green Skanka June-26th-2003 03:53 AM

Very Confused
 
OK i have a '97 lx "Special Edition" (the tag on the door says sepcial edition)

Well anyway, i've been very confused about it being a "special Edition", so i've been doing some research and this is what i found...

My dash is set up like the '98's, and the '97 are supposedly different. Kbb.com says my fuel capacity is 14.5 gal, and it's actually 11.2 gal. The sticker in my door says Chasis is BG1s-NAB, it also says the engine code on my car is CE04D16, not Z5. It also says the Destination is: NU (I dunno if NU is a country or what.) I looked up the VIN decoder, and my vin has 1 less # than there is supposed to be. North American model VIN #'s are supposed to start as JM#, mine starts with JMBC.

I am extremly confused, can aybody help me out????

Mazdaguy June-27th-2003 03:39 PM

The BC following JM is the engine designation. If your gas tank is rated at holding 14 gallons you can't put 14 gallons in it when you fill it up. There will always be quite a bit of gas in the tank even if you run out because the fuelpump can't pick the fuel up unless it's at the top of the fuelpump intake. So that leaves a gallon or 2 still in the tank. Say the gas tank is 3 feet wide and 3 feet long. There has to be an inch of fuel or more for the pump to pick it up. Thats quite a bit of fuel. I assume thats what you mean.
No telling on the NU thing.

Bruce95fmla June-27th-2003 03:55 PM


Originally posted by Mazdaguy
The BC following JM is the engine designation. If your gas tank is rated at holding 14 gallons you can't put 14 gallons in it when you fill it up. There will always be quite a bit of gas in the tank even if you run out because the fuelpump can't pick the fuel up unless it's at the top of the fuelpump intake. So that leaves a gallon or 2 still in the tank. Say the gas tank is 3 feet wide and 3 feet long. There has to be an inch of fuel or more for the pump to pick it up. Thats quite a bit of fuel. I assume thats what you mean.
No telling on the NU thing.

How do you figure that BC is a engine designation.....

Bruce95fmla June-27th-2003 03:57 PM

FROM THE FAQ
 
-------------snip--------------------
How do I read my VIN?
Your (North American) BG/BH/BJ Protegé's VIN should be as follows:
JM1xx####x#######
|||| | |||||
|||| | ||||Series & Car # (rolls to 100001 every new generation)
|||| | |||Plant # (0=Hiroshima, 1=Hofu)
|||| | ||Model Year (listing below)
|||| | |Check digit
|||| | Mod/engine type (see below)
|||| Body style (22=4 door, 23=3 door hatchback, 24=5 door hatchback)
|||Body Code (BG=90-94, BA=95, BB=96, BC=97-98, BJ=99-02)
||Vehicle Type (1=car, 2=truck/van, 3=van, 4=truck)
|Mazda
Japan

Model years: L=90, M=91, N=92, P=93, R=94, S=95, T=96, V=97, W=98, X=99,
Y=00, 1=01, 2=02, 3=03

Mod/engine types:
1st generations: 1=Canadian 1.6 liter SOHC 2WD, 2=1.6 liter SOHC 2WD,
3=Canadian 1.8 liter SOHC NA 2WD, 4=1.8 liter SOHC NA 2WD,
5=Canadian 1.8 liter DOHC NA 2WD, 6=1.8 liter DOHC NA 2WD,
7=Canadian 1.8 liter SOHC NA 4WD, 8=1.8 liter SOHC NA 4WD
2nd generations: 1=1.5 liter, 2=1.8 liter, 3=1.5 liter w/o airbag, 4=1.8 liter w/o airbag
3rd generations: 1=1.8 liter, 2=1.6 liter, 3=1.8 liter w/side airbag, 4=1.6 liter
w/side airbag, 5=2.0 liter, 6=2.0 liter w/side airbag, 7=MP3/MazdaSpeed, 8=MazdaSpeed (w/side airbag)

Series numbers:
1st generations: 100001-400000: 1990-1991 models
400001-900000: 1992-1994 models
2nd generations: 100001-200000: 1995 models (BA body code)
300001-400000: 1996 models (BB body code)
100001-300000: 1997-1998 models (BC body code)
adjusted series in accordance to BHA chassis #: 100001-300000 (1995-1996 models), 300001-600000 (1997-1998 models)
3rd generations: 100001-400000: 1999-2000 models
400001-600000: 2001-2002 models

-----------------------snip---------------------

Please read above ....
Bruce

Mazdaguy June-27th-2003 04:22 PM

Because it is. I work for Mazda,thats what they say it is. /shrug

Green Skanka June-27th-2003 06:04 PM

Ok, if you work for mazda, you must know why it's a special edition, and why on the sticker inside the door says that the engine code is CE04D16..

Mazdaguy June-27th-2003 06:49 PM

Why don't you carry your squirly ass to a dealership and quiz a salesman as to why it's a special edition. I just work on them and could'nt care less what they call them. I posted to help you out,not to be bashed and proded.Geez. You have too much time on your hands if you care about a few numbers on your vin. Not like theres anything you can possibly do about any number you don't deem appropriate. The number on the door is for the PCM ID btw.

Bruce95fmla June-27th-2003 06:49 PM

Look above , it tells you BC stands for 97-98 Body Code
His engine code is Z5

loch June-28th-2003 01:02 PM

SE
 
my door jam says grade: BASE - Special Edition
does that mean i have the jspec version of the SE? i got dual airbags and the z5 1.5 engine also a/c p/s collapsible mirrors, vanity mirror, rear fold down seats, power windows central locking
blah blah blah
?
its a 96 lantis

bobfish June-28th-2003 05:47 PM

Well now that I viewed this thread I checked my VIN as well and I dunno if i read it wrong but here it is

JM1BB141XT0xxxxxx

what confuses me is the Body Style part

apparently it's supposed to be a 20 something number
and mines a 14?

Bruce95fmla June-30th-2003 01:38 PM


Originally posted by Mazdaguy
Why don't you carry your squirly ass to a dealership and quiz a salesman as to why it's a special edition. I just work on them and could'nt care less what they call them. I posted to help you out,not to be bashed and proded.Geez. You have too much time on your hands if you care about a few numbers on your vin. Not like theres anything you can possibly do about any number you don't deem appropriate. The number on the door is for the PCM ID btw.
Hey Mazdaguy!
Although I agree with you partially, that it is really not a big deal . You don't have to react so harsh. Noone is calling you names or anything like that. We are just basically showing what we have found to explain the Vin numbers.

On this entire Forum , there are going to be people that will disagree with you at times. You can't just jump up and attack, but rather just chill out , see their point , accept it ,yet still show your point of view from your perspective...

Noone is out to bash you or discredit anything you say..
Bruce

Bruce95fmla June-30th-2003 01:54 PM


Originally posted by bobfish
Well now that I viewed this thread I checked my VIN as well and I dunno if i read it wrong but here it is

JM1BB141XT0xxxxxx
---that is supposed to be an O---

what confuses me is the Body Style part

apparently it's supposed to be a 20 something number
and mines a 14?

no big deal just a varience...

bobfish July-1st-2003 08:17 AM

oh well I checked the VIN just in case for some miraculous reason my car actually wasnt the 1.5 it was the 1.8. Just in case I was wrong this whole time :)

kansei July-6th-2003 06:37 PM

I started checking 2 gens at work and alot are 14 not 20 I'll have a look in the manuals to check if there is a reason.


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