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ProteZE April-2nd-2004 06:16 PM

1st gen BP into 2nd gen Protege / 323
 
What parts do i need ?

What mounts ?

Can i use the 2nd gen harness ?

ANy pointers will be appreciated ....

skr33t_rac3r April-3rd-2004 02:39 PM

over at clubpro bruce 95fmla is doing the swap right now

Torped0 April-4th-2004 06:54 PM

Well, i'm not positively sure.... but swappinn the 1st gen bp into the 2nd gen will work but i doubt the wire harness you may have will work. Y ou'll have to go find a 1st gen wire harness. I'm not sure about the motor mounts either. Maybe different *shrugs*

midnightblue97 April-5th-2004 07:11 PM

Might need second gen mounts.
Thats OK BP second gens are quite common in Canada.
You'll probably have to use the first gen harness and ECU, the second gen has VICS (or is it VTCS I can't remember) and the first gen doesn't which means you'll thrrow a check engine light for that shit if you use the second gen ECU.
You might be able to use the second gen harness but why bother, if(?) you have the first gen harness and ECU might as well use that.

ProteZE April-6th-2004 03:42 AM

someone told me to use all the 2nd gen stuff on the BP motor ..... why would i want to use the 2nd gen ECU on a GTR motor ...

what differences are there ?

fuel cureves, timing curves must be different ... no ?


i know that running a MX-3 ( 1.8L V6 ) ECU on a KLZE ( 2.5L V6 ) makes the car run like ass when cold, runs it too lean ... etc.

skr33t_rac3r April-6th-2004 07:47 AM


Originally posted by midnightblue97
Might need second gen mounts.
Thats OK BP second gens are quite common in Canada.
You'll probably have to use the first gen harness and ECU, the second gen has VICS (or is it VTCS I can't remember) and the first gen doesn't which means you'll thrrow a check engine light for that shit if you use the second gen ECU.
You might be able to use the second gen harness but why bother, if(?) you have the first gen harness and ECU might as well use that.

wut the hell, the first gen has VICS too

midnightblue97 April-6th-2004 05:16 PM


Originally posted by ProteZE
..... why would i want to use the 2nd gen ECU on a GTR motor ...


Didn't know it was the BPT.

ProteZE April-6th-2004 07:56 PM

So has anyone done it .... and does anyone have a quick guide on what to use and how to use the BPT in a 2nd gen ?

midnightblue97 April-7th-2004 03:54 PM

What you saw on clubP is about the best you'll get at the moment. Patrick did a GTX in his 97 at corksport but it wasn't extensively documented.

ProteZE April-9th-2004 08:48 PM

OK .... it looks like i found out the mounts are all 2nd gen .... ( from the Protege FAQ on www.ClubProtege.com )

Now .... you guys have to help me with the ODB1 to ODB2 wireing and getting the dashboard to work

http://me.a-spec.ca:6005/Mazdas/323/...n_IMG_2206.jpg + http://me.a-spec.ca:6005/Mazdas/323/...n_IMG_2047.jpg

Are you a bad enough dude to save the universe and help this guy put a GTR in a 95 323 ?


ProteZE April-29th-2004 03:44 PM

http://me.a-spec.ca:6005/Mazdas/323/...4/IMG_2297.JPG

The beast is in ... now i got to figure out the wireing.



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