View Poll Results: Which woul you do?
A-Spec KL-ZE Conversion
12
37.50%
BPT Conversion
20
62.50%
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Engine Swap: KL-ZE vs BPT
August-25th-2002, 11:36 AM
#19
Protege Newbie
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 33
Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
Hard to beat a boosted 2.5L
Hard to beat a boosted 2.5L
well yeah, if money isn't an issue, the ze is a good choice. so is upping the CR of the bpt.
August-25th-2002, 02:22 PM
#20
Project Protege Builder
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Dayton, OH USA
Posts: 397
heh...I posted this months ago and I STILL can't decide which is better...seems like it's a tie really.
I'm probably going to go with the BPT, because:
1.) BPT only requires transmission and engine swap where the KL-ZE requires axles and all that good front suspension stuff.
2.) BPT is cheaper, at ~$1000 and has the same HP before mods
3.) BPT is emissions legal ;-)
I'm probably going to go with the BPT, because:
1.) BPT only requires transmission and engine swap where the KL-ZE requires axles and all that good front suspension stuff.
2.) BPT is cheaper, at ~$1000 and has the same HP before mods
3.) BPT is emissions legal ;-)
August-25th-2002, 04:50 PM
#22
Protege Owner
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: va beach 757
Posts: 492
Originally posted by Loginology
heh...I posted this months ago and I STILL can't decide which is better...seems like it's a tie really.
I'm probably going to go with the BPT, because:
1.) BPT only requires transmission and engine swap where the KL-ZE requires axles and all that good front suspension stuff.
2.) BPT is cheaper, at ~$1000 and has the same HP before mods
3.) BPT is emissions legal ;-)
heh...I posted this months ago and I STILL can't decide which is better...seems like it's a tie really.
I'm probably going to go with the BPT, because:
1.) BPT only requires transmission and engine swap where the KL-ZE requires axles and all that good front suspension stuff.
2.) BPT is cheaper, at ~$1000 and has the same HP before mods
3.) BPT is emissions legal ;-)
November-19th-2002, 12:58 AM
#24
Protege Enthusiast
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: The Big CO
Posts: 58
The thing at A-Spec is a sweet deal. If it were me (and it soon will be cuz I just picked up a 323 HB) I would get the ZE. The BPT requires alot of other stuff to run well like stand alone EMS (Haltech E11 or something). Also, if you get the BPT you will need to get better piping (you dont have to, but its recomended) and a 3" exhaust. My Protege is in the process of BPT swap as we speek, and as soon as thats done the 323 will get its KL. But anyway, I guess I would go with the KL.....
November-19th-2002, 04:53 AM
#25
formerly chastan
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: California, USA
Posts: 2,350
Tell us your progress... I see a lot of people talking about doing the swap, but I don't hear a lot about what happens after. I was thinking of doing the A-spec, although it would sure be a road trip to get up there
November-19th-2002, 09:33 PM
#26
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 216
I would need some information about the swap of the bpt in your mx-3. Him putting mine in my pro and i need some idea for the electrical wiring and some really needed info on the vaccum line has mine came with the vaccum line disconnect
March-27th-2003, 12:04 PM
#27
Project Protege Builder
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Ok thought I'd update this post since it's what encouraged me a long time ago.
We're doing the BPT swap right now. I'd have to warn anyone else that can't decide: BPT is easier to install if you have all the parts and knowledge, but KL-ZE will most likely be cheaper even when done at a shop.
We're doing the BPT swap right now. I'd have to warn anyone else that can't decide: BPT is easier to install if you have all the parts and knowledge, but KL-ZE will most likely be cheaper even when done at a shop.
March-27th-2003, 05:16 PM
#28
Protege Enthusiast
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Roswell NM
Posts: 270
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BPT is easier to install if you have all the parts and knowledge, but KL-ZE will most likely be cheaper even when done at a shop.
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So when you say it is easier, how do you mean? I don't see how it is easier to put the BPT in than takeing the pro to A-spec and letting them deal with the hassle of the KL-ZE.
BPT is easier to install if you have all the parts and knowledge, but KL-ZE will most likely be cheaper even when done at a shop.
(/quote)
So when you say it is easier, how do you mean? I don't see how it is easier to put the BPT in than takeing the pro to A-spec and letting them deal with the hassle of the KL-ZE.
March-27th-2003, 07:00 PM
#29
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Originally posted by Tweeaks
(qoute)
BPT is easier to install if you have all the parts and knowledge, but KL-ZE will most likely be cheaper even when done at a shop.
(/quote)
So when you say it is easier, how do you mean? I don't see how it is easier to put the BPT in than takeing the pro to A-spec and letting them deal with the hassle of the KL-ZE.
(qoute)
BPT is easier to install if you have all the parts and knowledge, but KL-ZE will most likely be cheaper even when done at a shop.
(/quote)
So when you say it is easier, how do you mean? I don't see how it is easier to put the BPT in than takeing the pro to A-spec and letting them deal with the hassle of the KL-ZE.
Ok...but taking a BPT to A-Spec is the same as taking a KL-ZE there.
...I meant DIY vs DIY
March-27th-2003, 07:20 PM
#30
Protege Enthusiast
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Gainesville, FL
Posts: 87
The above crossmember is not one that is necessary for a BP-KL car. The crossmember that's necessary is the one that is above that that connects from the front of the engine bay to the rear of it at the subframe. This crossmember holds 2 of the 4 engine mounts . So it's important.