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Chirping second, catching third?

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Old May-20th-2002, 07:36 AM
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Chirping second, catching third?

I have heard from some people that run the smaller 1.6 and 1.8 litre engine, that they can rip second and chirp third gear.

I can never chirp third gear and only if the wind is pushing me can I make second chirp.

So I asked these wonder boys how they do this. They tell me "I shift at 6000 or above". I think to myself I must have a real piece of **** car, because I often shift at that rpm level and can't get the car to catch third and most of the time second gives no noise either.

Am I the only one with a MP3 2.0 that doesn't hit second and third gear this hard? Cause if I am the only one who doesn't its going back to the dealership!
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Old May-20th-2002, 08:13 AM
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LOL... I don't think there's enough of a difference in the gear ratio to allow this... When you're chirping or spinning, you're applying enough force to the wheels to cause them to spin faster than they are rolling... If you run up to 6000 and shift, you're going to be at or around 4000 after the shift... that's not enough force to lose traction.

I bet these guys are accelerating up to 4000, pushing in the clutch without taking their foot of the gas, shifting, then dropping the clutch (instead of quickly rolling off) at 6000. The net effect is much like downshifting from 5th to 3rd... If you do that, you'll probably chirp, but why destroy your clutch.

If you spin, you're losing traction... If you're spinning, you are losing force that could otherwise be used accelerating.

Nah... I wouldn't worry about it... why learn bad driving.

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Old May-20th-2002, 09:13 AM
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I am with Brubeck on this one.....

something else that could be CAUSING or contributing to their CHIRPING is the road surface they are on...if its something that is more slippery....they can chirp the tires...

my LAST hotrod I could easily chirp the tires going into third if I was on an older asphalt road that was worn smooth....but on any other surface it wouldn't.....

its not something to be concerned with...in fact....by NOT chirping the tires tells me YOUR traction is BETTER than their....nothing more
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I can do it. But I don't recommend it!

I can get my 99 1.8L Pro to "chirp" in 2nd (I have never tried in third, figured it wouldn't!)

I do find the car to be quicker when I don't chirp it...The Pro's engine unloads too quickly if you let the revs drop (needs a flywheel upgrade). I did use it as a gauge when I installed my K&N cone filter. The car would side step when I hard-shifted into second (Both wheels spun as uppose to a one wheel peel) The car wouldn't do that with the stock intake system.

I wouldn't suggest anyone doing it though, atleast on a regular basis, you could bent a lot of parts!
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