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Mxyzptlk October-3rd-2002 01:59 PM

Weight Training
 
Im a wimp its true its true. So like im looking here on the web for some good tips on starting some kinda routine. Tips welcome...

Well anyway I found these. They're not supposed to be a joke but I cant help but laugh.

http://v3.goldzeppelin.com/websites/...tpullover1.jpg

http://v3.goldzeppelin.com/websites/...tpullover2.jpg

Brycer79swoman October-3rd-2002 02:49 PM

poor puss puss!!! the cat better get some 'pounce treats' after that!!! and as for workin out stuff..uh yeah i'm not the one to ask!!

90210brandon October-3rd-2002 02:53 PM

Just do what you enjoy and do it slightly longer and eat 75% of what you eat now. I did just that and went from 194lbs to 180lbs and I am still doing it.

JAC October-3rd-2002 03:02 PM

Go to this web site, youll find all the info you need and then some,
Bodybuilding.com

and it's not just for bbers, it's for anyone who wants to be fit.

Mxyzptlk October-3rd-2002 03:03 PM

I cant imagine eating less. Im trying to bulk up / tone here.

sandman October-3rd-2002 03:33 PM

the only thing you need to know
 
go to your local big box bookstore.

get 'The Arnold Schwarzenegger Bodybuilding Encyclopedia'

It's the only reference you'll ever need for body building.

I have it

I use it

I love it

I even found the history of bodybuilding chapters fascinating...

Check it out - you won't be disappointed.

JAC October-3rd-2002 03:46 PM

Re: the only thing you need to know
 

Originally posted by sandman
go to your local big box bookstore.

get 'The Arnold Schwarzenegger Bodybuilding Encyclopedia'

It's the only reference you'll ever need for body building.

I have it

I use it

I love it

I even found the history of bodybuilding chapters fascinating...

Check it out - you won't be disappointed.

I agree it's a good read but nothing more, the training routines explained there are not as effective as the methods used today. For example, Arnold's routines used to last like 6 hours, it's a proven fact that training for more than 1 hour in most cases leads to overtraining and believe it or not, muscle loss. more isn't necesarily better.

A good training routine shouldn't last more than one hour, doing about 12-9 sets per bodypart. Check out the site I posted earlier, you will learn A LOT from those boards.

peace

sandman October-3rd-2002 03:52 PM

Re: Re: the only thing you need to know
 

Originally posted by JAC


I agree it's a good read but nothing more, the training routines explained there are not as effective as the methods used today. For example, Arnold's routines used to last like 6 hours, it's a proven fact that training for more than 1 hour in most cases leads to overtraining and believe it or not, muscle loss. more isn't necesarily better.

A good training routine shouldn't last more than one hour, doing about 12-9 sets per bodypart. Check out the site I posted earlier, you will learn A LOT from those boards.

peace

Remember - Arnold was training to compete - the average person isn't. He states that in the book - with 3 different 'plans' based on where you want your body building to take you.

One of those plans is for joe average that just wants to look good and not compete.. Guess what - the routines are about an hour, 3 sets of 9-12 reps per body part.. just like you said.

Sir Nuke October-3rd-2002 05:02 PM

I have but one suggestion....do your homework....find a routine that is suited to you.....start it and stick with it.....don't expact changes overnight......it can actually take years for the final result....but believe me...it will pay off if you do, in every aspect of your life. ESPECIALLY when it comes to WOMEN! :{D

VagaBond-X October-3rd-2002 08:36 PM

just one suggestion
 
here is a site, this is all you'll need


ABC BodyBuilding

this site is really good, if you look through its menus, it has almost every single excercise there, and most have pictures to explain how to do it, it also has other sections that are good for reading, stuff about too much working out, how to help damaged muscles etc.

the site helped me out

i'm 17 with 17 3/4 inch muscles, and I only been working out for about a year, and even then its not serious workouts, I miss allot of workouts and etc. hehe, but i do have over a 200lb bench press

JAC October-3rd-2002 09:58 PM

All I say is that you should take it with a grain of salt, and it's not only the fact that he was competing, it was because a) that's how everyone trained back then, b) He was on roids and c) HE'S A FREAK! best bber in my book.

sandman October-3rd-2002 11:14 PM


Originally posted by JAC
All I say is that you should take it with a grain of salt, and it's not only the fact that he was competing, it was because a) that's how everyone trained back then, b) He was on roids and c) HE'S A FREAK! best bber in my book.
I agree - but i take anything with a grain of salt.. Not trying to dis your site cuz this is a generalized comment being put into the context of bodybuilding, but I'd be more likely to listen to something arny tells me over something i read over the net... but i'm like that with any topic.. it's all about research.

When it comes down to it.. whether that's how they did it back then or not - its all about lifting something heavy to improve your strength.. thats it.. curls are still curls.. presses are still presses..

Myself - i'll never touch roids.. i'll take my body to the max it'll naturally allow me, and keep myself there. I have no need, nor desire to get huge.

and you're goddam right.. anybody who's in his 50s and still looks like he could take you, me, and 5 other guys blindfolded, is fine by me...

Personally, I took elements from arny's book, as well as Body for Life by Bill Philips.. Basically, I use as many of arny's routines as I can with my limited amount of equipment, and BFLs methodology for diet, and I'm doing and feeling great.

Makaveli October-4th-2002 04:22 AM

Well my suggestion is to break up your week into seven days
:eek: imagine that!

hehe, then you start with your first day and you decide what muscles you want to work on that day. Then you pick what you will work on next day and then the third day you take a break and maybe do a bit of cardio (running, swimming, etc.)
Then you start over, but sometimes take an extra day for break because if you push your body too hard it will just shut down and you'll have no energy for the next few days and will feel like shhhh


Also, don't overlook your back. I think that's the most important part. People often work mostly on their chest, bi's and tri's, but you gotta work the most on your back. Do a lot of exercises that are like rowing and ask the people in the gym, they'll get you started :)

Another thing, don't rest too long in the gym. When you go in there, do a set, give it half a minute, do another one and drink tons of water, 'that cool refreshing drink'.

Oh also, make sure you always warm up and stretch properly!!! If you don't stretch you'll be like some of those STiff mo'fo's that just workout and can't even tie up their shoelaces. If you can, you should idealy stretch for about 15-20 mins.

JAC October-4th-2002 10:03 AM


Originally posted by sandman


I agree - but i take anything with a grain of salt.. Not trying to dis your site cuz this is a generalized comment being put into the context of bodybuilding, but I'd be more likely to listen to something arny tells me over something i read over the net... but i'm like that with any topic.. it's all about research.

When it comes down to it.. whether that's how they did it back then or not - its all about lifting something heavy to improve your strength.. thats it.. curls are still curls.. presses are still presses..

Myself - i'll never touch roids.. i'll take my body to the max it'll naturally allow me, and keep myself there. I have no need, nor desire to get huge.

and you're goddam right.. anybody who's in his 50s and still looks like he could take you, me, and 5 other guys blindfolded, is fine by me...

Personally, I took elements from arny's book, as well as Body for Life by Bill Philips.. Basically, I use as many of arny's routines as I can with my limited amount of equipment, and BFLs methodology for diet, and I'm doing and feeling great.

Yup, I agree with everything you just said. I'm 100% natural myself and I intend to stay that way, roids suck IMO. So do most of todays bbers, they don't look good, they're like a block of mass with legs and arms...Back in the 70s however, it was different, there was steroid use but it was very minor compared to what todays "pros" use, the physique from older bbers was aesthetically pleasing and they were each more unique, todays bbers all look the same.

Ill take Arnold or Dave Draper or Sergio Oliva over any of todays pros.

Oh, good thing you mentioned Bill Philips book, I would recomend it to anyone and it's a very complete guide for begginers.


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