idiot mazda mechanics
 

As some of you know i had an accedent with my car 2 months ago, body shop gave me nothing but troubles, 12+ major problems after it got "fixed", body shop contracted the broken shifter problem to Mazda, they said their's nothing wrong with it, i yelled the fuck out of the body shop, they brought it back into mazda, stupid dumb fuck mazda still said theirs nothing wrong with it. probalby being afriad of me yelling again and making a scene, the body shop mechanic looked at it himself and found that the shifter rod linkage was bent out of shape so HE replaced it himself +1 point for the body shop mechanic, WOW he did something right. Then more problems came

1. car over heated 3 times so i brought it back
2. got car back, car over heated twice so i brought it back
3. got car back, over heated another 3 times so i brought it back

all in the period of 1.5 months

maybe the Mazda mechanics get the hint that the car is overheating and its probably a temperature sensor problem? yeah they probably don't get the hint. Its not the body shops problem but since they warrenty the thing i have to bring it to them then they tow it to mazda. Mazda is full of fucking idiot slack ass son's of bitchs i give them no respect. i won't even bother trying to act nice or give them a chance. I just imediatly yell at them.

Mazda Japan is not the one that is Shit BTW, its fucking idiot Mazda Mechanics in Calgary Alberta Canada, they just ruined mazda rep.

you could always contact MNAO, and give them a nice little explanation of what's going on. They're pretty good at calling the dealers themselves and handling shit if it's not getting done properly.

Tell you what sell your car! You should go out and buy a saturn maybe they will give that warm fuzzy feeling your looking for. You are what 17 yrs old? Let me guess it's your moms car right and she's mad you smashed it up, well BOO HOO . Maybe if you didn't act like such a child they would be more willing to help you out. It's not the dealer giving mazda a bad name it's people like you spouting off about things you know nothing about.

who are you? and why are you going on about this guy? :rolleyes: i'd be just as pissed if they didn't fix my car correctly the first few times i took it in.

I'd be mad too... Mazda mechanics are the same freaking geniuses that dented my brand new car and gave it back without saying anything about it!

Give em hell!

I think MAZDA44 is a Mazda Tech defending his line of work .... :D

Dude, I support you 100%. Go out there and tell them what you think. Its the only way shit will get done. Not by timid people willing to bend over for what some assrammer tells them. Heh, I like your style man.

well you can't blame ALL mazda mechanics. can't say they ALL don't know jack. I'd say contact mazda and explain your problem and then they should be able to correct the probalem with your particular dealer. that will save the hassle someone else will have to go through at that particular dealership. You just gotta tell the right people.

I'm just saying there are two side to every story, maybe they have parts on order or maybe 20fs will only leave his car there for short periods of time. Here's the other thing 20fs said that his car over heated 8 times in 1.5 months so that means he's only driven his car 8 time in 1.5 months or the problem is intermitent, So what would you have the dealer do? The dealer can only charge mazda so much time for a problem so you can not have a tech driving a car around hoping to have the car over heat because in this case it may take a week

Re: idiot mazda mechanics
 

Overheating *cannot* be caused by the temperature (ECT) sensor. The ECT sensor only tells the EFI what to do. It has no control over the actual temperature of the engine.

Your problem is caused by a normal overheating source- likely candidates are a clogged radiator, collapsed radiator hose, bad thermostat (this is a mechanical device, not a sensor), wrong coolant/water mix, or a bad radiator cap. Less likely possibilities are incorrect ignition timing (likely would be picked up by the ECU) or a blown head gasket.

Actually, another strong possibility is an incorrect radiator. I didn't read the original details of your collision, but if the wreck cracked the radiator (common in a hard front-ender) and the body shop replaced it, they might have used an El Cheapo generic radiator instead of a genuine Mazda part. Generic replacement radiators sometimes have inferior internal construction and will cause overheating problems even if the rest of the cooling system is 100% up to snuff.

Good luck :)

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makes good sense to me :D

Any other dealers in your area?
I wouldn't keep bringing it to the same twit.

I know what you are saying but if the car is overheating its overheating. What would you do in this case. Just live with it? If it over heats intermittently isnt that still a problem? Or should he just drive it like that? IMO there is one side to every story when it comes to getting the car fixed, and that is that if you "the customer" feels there is a problem then there is a problem. Period end of story. It doesnt matter what the dealer feels because it is their responsibility to take care of any problems that may occur with the car they sold. Im sure you take pride in the work you do and care for the customers you help. Im sure a lot of the younger crowed may sometimes piss you off with blind comments thrown out in general but realistcally he is having this problem and you dont know maybe the tech at the dealer he goes to is a slacker who doesnt care one bit for his job and just slides by everyday doing crappy work. Maybe the best thing you can do is instead of slamming him for what he says, help him with your Knowledge and make him change the way he talks about prople by setting a good example. Just my opinion...

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What dealer did the car go to? Sunridge, North Hill, or Kramer? If it went to Sunridge, you should have been OK. They have 2 really good technicians there that have taken the 2 year Mazda technician course or some shit like that. It was in our newsletter awhile ago. I know the guys over at Sunridge (used to work there) so if that's where it got serviced, I might be able to help you out.

first of all you don't know the details and you sound like an idiot trying to fill the blank spaces in with your own made up BS. someone cut me off turning left and i was going strait, when she got out of the car she admited it was her fault right away. #2 saturns are crap and i will never buy a GM car in my life. #3 im not 17 im 20. #4 My mom is not mad at me, she is mad at mazda and so is the body shop becuase mazda keeps ripping them off with BS parts the car doesn't need.#5 i am going to sue mazda becuase its been to the shop 4 times and they have done nothing to it when the problem is so obvious its not even funny. they have wasted 1.5 months of my time, time which i could of used the car to go to work (CT doesn't always take me to where i need to go). #6 it IS mazda techs that give mazda a bad name, but from where i stand my beef is with those idiot mechs that don't know WTF their doing. i have no problem with Mazda Japan, which is why i bought this car in the first place

Even the tow truck driver is getting sick of my car, he has towed it to the same damn place 4+ times

I'm not saying he doesn't have a problem your right if the car is over heating then it is over heating. The only thing I'm saying is he shouldn't paint all tech with the same brush. I would love to help this guy but I'm in Edmonton so I can't do a lot from here. Here's what I would want to know. Is the car really over heating to the point coolant is boiling over or is the gauge just reading wrong, maybe there is a short in the wiring causing his gauge to read incorrectly, this car was hit, maybe the dealership is trying to find the wrong problem. If the car is overheating then I would want to know what parts where put into this car. like the other guy said aftermarket rad sometimes don't cool the same as a mazda rad, maybe the t-stat was installed backwards. It could be a lot of things with this car.

well hmm i dunno it happens everytime the theirs no air moving past the rad. IE RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC, Idleing on my driveway/Street

:confused:I REALLY DON"T KNOW IF IT IS OVER HEATING OR NOT??? :confused:


the first time i wasn't expecting it. I started to smell something awful like anti freeze in DT calgary. i was like WTF its probably the truck beside me. Then i see white steam comming out from the sidelines of my hood grill , by the start of the windshield and wheel well, i look at my temperature gauge, its ¾ of the way to H, i shut my car off imediatly, throw in the occasional swares and curses. pop my hood open the reservoir is bubbling to a point it looks like its going to blow up (shaking like it has a seizure) antifreeze going all over the place the street now has green liquid all over the place, ppl around me are like WTF its a brand new car. then this happened 6 more times, i could only manage to save my car from bleeding antifreeze twice, i caught the temperature gauge passing half so i floored it and went 150kph, that tends to cool it down real fast. I took some pics 5th time it did it (got home just in time!) as you can see in 2 of the pics the reservoir is RIGHT full to the point its comming out. I dunno you think its over heating i think i shoulda let it idle for a couple mins longer to make sure?


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20fs it sounds to me like maybe the cooling fan may not be working can you here the fan when it is over heating. If you want you ca call me and I'll talk you through some things it's up you
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Agreed!!! See now I respect you...Im a Corporate PC analyst and I also HATE when people paint everyone with the same brush but I just dont let it get to me because I expect it. Its a common occurance for me. To me it seems like the rad fan may not be comming on or maybe its blocked or the thermos bad

20FS also you may want to get a flash light and try to look at the radiator to make sure that they didnt user the old one because if the fins are all bent then it wont cool. just another thought

you are correct, but im not allowed to touch it or the whole warrenty thing is void and no one is going to fix anything so i'll just do with out a car, probably forever..

I'm not sure what your saying, is the fan not working? If so is the fan plugged in, if not plug it in that won't void any warranty.

What was the name of the dealership in Calgary that you are having problems with?

I have to agree with a lot of other posters here. Take it to another dealership (or tell the body shop to take it to another dealership). One dealership technician is not equal to another; and one dealership is not equal to another. Request to have a Mazda Master Technician (if the dealership has any) to look at it.

However, I highly doubt Mazda would cover this under warranty. They would most likely charge you or the body shop for any repairs. The condition you are describing was not caused by Mazda's workmanship... it was caused by the accident and poor workmanship of the body shop and/or any other shop that worked on it... it is the responsibility of the body shop to get your car running correctly again. I would hound the body shop to get your car fixed... and until they do so, they need to provide you with a loaner or rental!

Is the other driver's insurance paying for the repairs? If so, call them and complain. Call your insurance company and complain. The body shop probably has a deal worked out with the insurance company and they could lose business if the insurance company is not happy with their work.

Good luck!

-Jerry

20FS,

Next time it overheats, you shouldn't turn the car right off. Pull over, shut the engine off, and then return the key to the "ON" position. Then, check that your main cooling fan is working. (The one on the right when looking at the car from the front.) If not, that's you problem. If it is working, just leave it on for awhile until it cools off.

I'll look in the shop manual this evening and see if I can find the probable causes and let you know.

omg, the body shop just called and they found out the reason why it was over heating, this is gonna make alot of you laugh

THE FAN WAS SPINNING THE WRONG WAY!!!!!!!! OMG!!!!!

hows that craftsmanship for you? that doesn't even make sense LOL first time it didn't even turn on, now it spins the wrong way lol *dies laughing* oh i took some of your advice and i demanded that it went to another dealer in calgary so its going to northhill mazda on center st. lets see if they can "FIX" my car

The wrong way???? Muwhahahahahaahahahah!!!
Can you say "Oops"?

Hey 20FS where was your car before being taken to Northhill? I need to get my head unit fixed and would like to avoid any screw ups! :D

yeah the fan spinning the wrong way WTF how is that even possible? the power connector is dummy proof it can only go in 1 WAY!

anyways it was taken to northhill mazda today! (06/28/02) and it came from Kramdumasser mazda. wave to my car if you see it! its the silver model with red calipers lol

go to the NE or N mazda i hurd they are not as idumb as the ghetto SW location