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pollito14 October-10th-2002 06:37 PM

Cloning CD's
 
I'm trying to clone CDs with Clone CD software and/or Ahead Nero and sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. In Ahead Nero when it anylizes the original it ALWAYS says "This CD is copywrighted" (even if it's a personal data CDR) and it keeps going until it tried to start to burn when it says ERROR. On Clone CD I was able to make a copy of a few disks but right now I'm trying to make duplicates of some Audio CDs and I burn them and complete'em but when I put them in any CD player it stays at 0:00 I press stop and it tells me all the tracks and total CD time. Tried the original and it works. I've got the most up to date drivers for my CD-R but I'm wondering if my "slow" machine isn't helping. I have a 466 athalon with aprox 128MB RAM and a 13GB HD. Anyone have any suggestions?

SEA_P5 October-10th-2002 06:55 PM

Do a search in netscape for CDEX.

mnkyboy October-10th-2002 10:55 PM

Ive never had a problem with copying audio cds with Nero. Nero ALWAYS says "Copyright Protection" with the icon. It should burn just fine. Are you trying to burn the cd "on the fly". Going from CD-ROM to CD-BURNER ("on the fly") is not the best way to copy a cd on a slow computer. I have a fast computer, but I still like making an image on my harddrive, then burning the image to the cd-r. There are to many things that could go wrong when going from cd-rom to cd-burner. If you havent tried this out, try it.

If you are trying to copy a game, like Madden 2003. You will need a crack to play the game with the CD-R burned game. Most cd burners will not fully copy the entire cd, requiring you to download a "crack" or "fix" for the game.

Hope this helps.

BTW, Nero is the only burning software I use now. It does everything.

Sir Nuke October-10th-2002 11:13 PM

Personally, I use MUSICMATCH....never had a problem.....whether its a data cd or music....but like MnkyBoy.....I too always make an image on the harddrive and burn from there...it tends to be faster too.

UCSBgeek October-11th-2002 09:37 AM

Are you copying Audio CDs? Are they fairly recent? They may be those ones that have that new "copy protection" on them... :mad:

mnkyboy October-11th-2002 10:08 AM


Originally posted by Chastan
Are you copying Audio CDs? Are they fairly recent? They may be those ones that have that new "copy protection" on them... :mad:
The new "copy protection" audio cds have failed miserably, since some people have trouble playing them in regular cd players. Also, the protection has been "hacked". All you need is a Sharpie marker. LOL :D

pollito14 October-11th-2002 10:24 AM

I HAVE been making an Image to the drive and then copying and that means I haven't been doing a "copy on the Fly"

How is that copy protection "crack" with a sharpie marker? I was told once that you write on the numbers or letter in the center part of the CD and it will be the equivalent of the tab on a video cassette or the tab on a floppy. Does it really work? I thought someone was trying to pull my chain.

mnkyboy October-11th-2002 12:40 PM


Originally posted by Gro Harlem
It all has to do with your BURNER, not anything else. If you are using a burner that doesn't support RAW/DOA then you won't get getting perfect 1:1 copies.

All plextor burners and a lot of pacific digital burners have this feature. You still have to select the right options on CloneCD but if you do it right, you'll get perfect 1:1's, even if the CD has a lot of burn-protection stuff built into it :)

You are correct, some burners CAN do this, most cant. Im not sure if you got Pacific Digital mixed up with another company, since they are they bottom of the cd burner chain. Plextor is one of the best burners, but Lite-on gives you the best bang for your buck. Lite-ons are up to par with Plextor.

The only time you have to worry about making perfect 1:1 copies is when copying a DATA cd, like a game or application. When burning audio cds, you shouldnt have a problem. If you can play the original audio cd on your computer, you should be able to make mp3s or burn a 1:1 copy. The new "copy protection" thats on newer cds WILL NOT allow you to play the original cd on your computer, therefore making it "impossible" to make mp3s or copy. The sharpie marker thing I was refering to is filling in the outer rim of the cd, which contains the copy protection. Im sure you can find a tutorial if you searched on www.google.com. I cant tell you the details, since I have never had problems with a audio cd. I still think its pretty funny that Sony spent millions of dollars creating the copy protection, and someone figured out a way to "hack" it by using a sharpie! :rofl:

Mxyzptlk October-12th-2002 03:59 AM

Yep CloneCD has burners that work great with it. I got a Mitsumi 4804TE. I bought it special for that program. Makes perfect copies in RAW mode. But its slow... 4x

JDMstuff October-12th-2002 05:05 AM

Make sure you have the latest version of Clone CD. The newest version supports more burners. I was having problems with the older version until I upgraded. If you have a registered copy, you can download the upgrade for free.

pollito14 October-13th-2002 11:56 AM

I've got the 4.0.1.10 version and it's registered but.... it's kinda let me think.. hacked? jeje :D I'm quite sure it's the newest one. I used it to make data copies but it doesn't wanna make audios.

mnkyboy October-13th-2002 12:00 PM


Originally posted by pollito14
it's kinda let me think.. hacked?

I dont like that word. Think of it as "fixed". :D

pollito14 October-13th-2002 05:27 PM

Mine is a Mitsumi up to 4x so imagina how old it is. What surprises me about the copies I made is that they were recorded succesfully but when I tried to play them they would sit at 0:00 and when stop was pressed it would show al the tracks and everything.

mnkyboy October-13th-2002 07:15 PM


Originally posted by Gro Harlem
As a matter a fact, i think the computer detects that pac digitial as a "lite-on 12/10/40". I guess they make burners and rebadge them.
Could be. Sometimes you are lucky to get a good brand rebadged, sometimes you arent :D


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