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Mazdaspeed 5 ??!?!?11/!?//1!
Hey-
I am looking to get a mazda 5, but i was wondering how much of the parts etc from a mazdaspeed 3 would fit? I was wondering if anyone has seen this or even discussed it. sorry to start out with such a newbie post. i like the 5 alot, but i know it can be alot better. i also saw a mazdaspeed 3 that was totalled and it made me start thinking........ what do you guys think? crisco |
The CX-7 uses the MS3/MS6 turbo engine. I don't think Mazda is in a hurry to make another turbo van/suv.
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i guess mazda wouldn't do it, but i want to! it should be pretty easy to swap from a speed3 right? besides, the 5 isn't really as much a van as it is a wagon-type vehicle in my mind, especially b/c its smaller and is based on the 3 platform.
but i was definately referring to modifying a 5 as opposed to buying one like that from mazda. |
in europe the focus s-max (same platform as the mazda5) gets a 220hp 5-cylinder from volvo. drill some extra holes and do some shoe-horning and you've got an instant upgrade hehe
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the MS3 has a top-mounted intercoolor, and the 3's hood had to be redesigned. so you will need to seriously modify the 5's hood. as far as the motor mounts and such, i don't know how much of a direct swap it would be. could be pretty direct. but then there would be the PCM and ECU swaps and other stuff that could get quite scary.
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I'd just snag a mazdaspeed3 engine/transmission and do a front mounted intercooler.
it would take a decent bit of custom work (intercooler piping and such) but it would be so worth it. The 5 is an awesome car, and a really fast mazda5 would be tits! Gotta get some upgraded springs, struts, and sway bars to give it the handling to back up that power though! I know AutoEXE makes stuff for the car, since the 5 is so uncommon (well it's way more common in Canada but it's still no honda civic) you'll probably have to import a lot of the stuff. |
actually, the stock 5 mounts should work on the MS3 engine. Same with tranny. ECU and wiring harness would have to be re-done but thats a small price to pay for a 13s minivan. Just make sure you have a mtx 5 to start with or you're in over your head trying to swap in the manual as well.
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Originally Posted by Roddimus Prime
(Post 389228)
actually, the stock 5 mounts should work on the MS3 engine. Same with tranny. ECU and wiring harness would have to be re-done but thats a small price to pay for a 13s minivan. Just make sure you have a mtx 5 to start with or you're in over your head trying to swap in the manual as well.
I wonder if the MS3 ECU could be used just like the MSP ECU can be on Proteges.. unless the 5 wiring harness is waaaaay different (I know the 5 has a different ECU to give it more low end torque) The mount locations and such will totally work but I'm sure the MS3 has upgraded mounts (including a tranny one that isn't bolted together properly and falls apart lol). |
engine,tranny, ecu , and harness, should be it...that would be PRETTY pricey though...
would be awesome to see a MS 5 though ! |
Originally Posted by _Kansei_
(Post 389227)
I'd just snag a mazdaspeed3 engine/transmission and do a front mounted intercooler.
it would take a decent bit of custom work (intercooler piping and such) but it would be so worth it. The 5 is an awesome car, and a really fast mazda5 would be tits! Gotta get some upgraded springs, struts, and sway bars to give it the handling to back up that power though! I know AutoEXE makes stuff for the car, since the 5 is so uncommon (well it's way more common in Canada but it's still no honda civic) you'll probably have to import a lot of the stuff. this is the type of response i was hoping for. it just took a few months! :scatter: it wouldn't be too bad ($-wise) to buy a totalled MS3 and a used 5.... |
AutoEXE is a Japanese company.. there's quite a few importers that have their stuff though.
AutoEXE recommends Corksport (www.corksport.com) so I'd give them a buzz and see what they can do for you. AutoEXE stuff is very well made, well engineered, etc but it does come at a cost, especially since it all has to be custom imported since no one stocks their stuff here. plus the autoexe body kit for the 5 is just.. so... beautiful http://corksport.com/page/1a3el/323_...5_Premacy.html http://corksport.com/userimages/prem...and=1138685312 |
What you'd want to do is pull the entire subframe from the MS3 (ECU is in the engine bay also making it easier).
Swap in the new subframe and re-run the engine wiring harness through the firewall. There is a BIG difference in wiring harnesses of the MS3 and 5....the MS3 has sensors that the 5 doesn't. That wouldbe a project i'd like to take on...Could probably be done in under a week. |
Originally Posted by _Kansei_
(Post 389252)
AutoEXE is a Japanese company.. there's quite a few importers that have their stuff though.
AutoEXE recommends Corksport (www.corksport.com) so I'd give them a buzz and see what they can do for you. AutoEXE stuff is very well made, well engineered, etc but it does come at a cost, especially since it all has to be custom imported since no one stocks their stuff here. plus the autoexe body kit for the 5 is just.. so... beautiful http://corksport.com/page/1a3el/323_...5_Premacy.html http://corksport.com/userimages/prem...and=1138685312 |
Originally Posted by _Kansei_
(Post 389252)
AutoEXE is a Japanese company.. there's quite a few importers that have their stuff though.
AutoEXE recommends Corksport (www.corksport.com) so I'd give them a buzz and see what they can do for you. AutoEXE stuff is very well made, well engineered, etc but it does come at a cost, especially since it all has to be custom imported since no one stocks their stuff here. plus the autoexe body kit for the 5 is just.. so... beautiful |
I've thought about doing this same swap. This would def turn heads and probably get you on one of the mag pages.
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