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kalidororiginal October-11th-2007 11:19 AM

Hello brothers.I have an answer for where io can find air filter syster for 1.6 (carbon or something else)

J-Protege October-11th-2007 04:53 PM

I'm assuming you mean a 1.6L Civic?

:p j/k

Just to get some info first:
What car do you drive?
Are you looking for an air filter, or an intake system?
By carbon, you mean you want it in carbon fibre I'm assuming?

kalidororiginal October-12th-2007 03:05 PM

I have a Mazda3 sedan 1.6 04' model
and i want something like air intakes system...

J-Protege October-12th-2007 03:11 PM

Can someone confirm they made the Mazda3 with a 1.6? I didn't think they had, 2.0 and 2.3 only...

Anyways, if you're looking for an intake, PM member 'Kargoboy'. He sells Simota intakes for much less than you would spend on something like Injen. Everyone seems to love them, so that's your best bet.

_Kansei_ October-12th-2007 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by J-Protege (Post 394636)
Can someone confirm they made the Mazda3 with a 1.6? I didn't think they had, 2.0 and 2.3 only...

Anyways, if you're looking for an intake, PM member 'Kargoboy'. He sells Simota intakes for much less than you would spend on something like Injen. Everyone seems to love them, so that's your best bet.

Yes, but he's not from North America...

so yes, they did --in Europe and the Philippines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_MZR_engine#1.6

it's an MZR :)

J-Protege October-12th-2007 03:30 PM

Ah, cool. Will the USDM based intakes fit on that car then?

kalidororiginal October-12th-2007 03:40 PM

i will find something anyway...

dentinger October-12th-2007 04:26 PM

if you could post a pic of ur engine bay, then i could be able to tell if it it'll fit or not.

Dingo October-19th-2007 02:39 AM


Originally Posted by alpha732 (Post 392707)
Again, that's what I gathered on mazda3forums. 200whp is still a pretty nice boost though, considering stock the 2.3 puts out around 125-130

The Mazda 3 2.3L auto makes 156 hp. Getting it to 200 hp would not take over $1200, IME. Starting cheap: Denso iridium plugs (+4-6hp for only $60), CAI, Magnaflow Catback exhaust, and a street legal header should give the auto at least a +50 hp for about $1000-$1400. Mazda 3 post-project whp = 206. That's how I did it anyway.

However, after driving a black 2006 Speed6 DISI Turbo with only 9k AND an owner who put in a magnaflow catback and CAI, I'm killing myself to justify trading my 3S in for it - it screams with absolutely no torque steer, and I tried but could not force any of the wheels to even get light. Dealer asking price $22,000. Can I say no?

J-Protege October-19th-2007 08:29 PM

I would need to see a dyno to agree with any of those HP gains you're claiming. 4-6hp from spark plugs is pretty far fetched imo.

i/h/e maybe make 20-30 hp max. If you have new plugs and i/h/e, you most likely run about 170-180 horsepower. Unless you have a dyno run that says otherwise.

As for the MazdaSpeed6, it sure is a quick car, and the AWD really helps control the power. Go for it if you can justify the cost!

alpha732 October-20th-2007 01:19 AM


Originally Posted by Dingo (Post 395107)
The Mazda 3 2.3L auto makes 156 hp. Getting it to 200 hp would not take over $1200, IME. Starting cheap: Denso iridium plugs (+4-6hp for only $60), CAI, Magnaflow Catback exhaust, and a street legal header should give the auto at least a +50 hp for about $1000-$1400. Mazda 3 post-project whp = 206. That's how I did it anyway.

However, after driving a black 2006 Speed6 DISI Turbo with only 9k AND an owner who put in a magnaflow catback and CAI, I'm killing myself to justify trading my 3S in for it - it screams with absolutely no torque steer, and I tried but could not force any of the wheels to even get light. Dealer asking price $22,000. Can I say no?


No, it puts down 120-130 at the wheels

you're talking crank :nono:

And no, all of that won't give 50hp lulz

like 30 at most

still at 160 wheels, whereas a turbo will put you at 200-220

kbai.

Dingo October-20th-2007 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by J-Protege (Post 395175)
I would need to see a dyno to agree with any of those HP gains you're claiming. 4-6hp from spark plugs is pretty far fetched imo.

i/h/e maybe make 20-30 hp max. If you have new plugs and i/h/e, you most likely run about 170-180 horsepower. Unless you have a dyno run that says otherwise.

Well, I registered as "Dingo" (dumb wild Australian dog) for a reason: I'm a Mazda 3/mazdaspeed enthusiast, but certainly not a tuner expert - more of an immature older guy who still likes to race, I mean drive, sporty imports that can also serve as daily drivers/commuters. So my bad for quoting hp at the "crank" and projected hp for mods based on what different techs have told me (I'm sure they are referring to added "crank" hp). And I'm sure the difference is that a car loses hp efficiency during the transfer from crank to the wheels? So, if all cars are equally efficient, the difference between crank hp and whp would be relative?

That said, I trust your opinion that the above mods would not meet my projected 50hp at the wheels. And I assume you're saying the project mods would give 20-30 hp at the wheels? So, you're projecting +20-30 hp at the wheels? (Could you estimate the added crank hp?) - the problem for me is my projections (hp/weight ratio, projected added 1/4 speed, 0-60 etc.) are based on manufacturer, reviewers, commonly cited hp numbers, which I'm sure are all crank hp, no?). Thus, unless I misunderstand, it's more helpful for me (though I'm sure not as accurate) to deal with crank hp #'s. Is the Dingo making sense?

Anyway, since a turbo kit is out of the question for my 3s (every tech, and the mazdaspeed techs have told me I'd almost have to do an engine swap to do it the way I want it (maintain durability/longevity/reliability) on the stock ford 2.3L engine.

Thanks for the corrections. (So a Mustang GT doesn't make 300hp at the wheels and a Shelby doesn't make 500hp at the wheels?)
Dingo

Dingo October-20th-2007 02:18 PM

Help Dingo's Stock 3s
 
I'll change the premise of the original post a bit.
I have an 04 3s manumatic 4 speed. No engine mods (yet). What (specify brands/dynos if available) will deliver the most whp bang for the buck? Your budget is $1600 installed.
I appreciate all informed decisions.


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