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Nikka1 July-18th-2012 04:54 AM

Mazda 3 brake problem
 
I have a 2004 Mazda 3 2.0 manual. I am having issues with the braking system. My pedal is very spongy and goes to the stop but if I double pump it it is a good pedal. I am a mechanic myself but I can't worked out whats going on. I have replaced theaster cylinder, stripped the calipers and inspected them. Bleed the brakes a few times. Even when I block off all the lines the pedal is still not good. It also makes a really quiet whistling noise when you release the brakes. If you have had a similar problem or have any ideas please help.

djs2571 July-18th-2012 11:47 AM

spongy brakes = air in the lines, though if it's gotten worse over time it could be the rubber hoses going to each wheel getting soft.
Bleeding the brakes may not be enough, as if air got in at any time it could need to be flushed through the system. Also remember that the clutch uses the same fluid resivoir, so if that was letting air in it could be a problem too - though I doubt that's the case.
The whistling could be the brake booster, can you hear where it's coming from? You should be able to do that with the engine off to see if it's the mechanical stuff or part of the booster assembly.

jcmerida23 September-6th-2012 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by Nikka1 (Post 418220)
I have a 2004 Mazda 3 2.0 manual. I am having issues with the braking system. My pedal is very spongy and goes to the stop but if I double pump it it is a good pedal. I am a mechanic myself but I can't worked out whats going on. I have replaced theaster cylinder, stripped the calipers and inspected them. Bleed the brakes a few times. Even when I block off all the lines the pedal is still not good. It also makes a really quiet whistling noise when you release the brakes. If you have had a similar problem or have any ideas please help.

Hi there!!! I have the same problem!!! I have a Mazda 3 2006 automatic and the description of my problem it's the same ... Please anybody knows something about it? Thank you!!!

Nikka1 September-8th-2012 01:22 AM

$1400 dollars later it was the abs pump and the booster. Good luck

jcmerida23 September-8th-2012 09:35 AM

Thank you for your answer
 
Whoau!!! That hurts my pocket ... Any reasons as why the abs pump went bad ... Is that the unit with the conectors and 6 pipes near the battery? ... Thank you again!!!

ozlander03 November-26th-2013 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by Nikka1 (Post 418544)
$1400 dollars later it was the abs pump and the booster. Good luck

Nikka1, I'm having the same exact problem with my 2006 mazda 3 automatic. The pedal initially feels fine, but as you slowly apply the brakes, it becomes spongy and ineffective, until it regains authority after about 1" of travel. So you replaced both the abs pump and brake booster and it fixed it? If so, can you describe what part I need to look for, I'm not too familiar with the ABS pump? Thanks!

Wildcard26 December-12th-2013 11:57 AM

Was anything done to the brakes recently? I was researching a problem where my pedal would go soft at an immediate brake creating a ABS event. What I read was that if work was done on your brakes the ABS may need to be reset. From my research on the net I read that if you take the car out and simulate about 5-6 ABS events, sudden hard breaking it should set the brakes back in and it should get hard again. Just a thought.

ozlander03 December-12th-2013 03:11 PM

ABS Reset
 
Wildcard26, that was the exact fix for my problem. I had not had any brake work done recently, and the pedal sponginess really came out of nowhere; however, after replacing the master cylinder and the brake booster with no success, I went out and initiated quick stops at around 35mph to get the ABS to kick in, and after about the 4th initiation, the pedal felt like normal again, and has been working great since.

tak06 December-19th-2017 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by Wildcard26 (Post 421481)
Was anything done to the brakes recently? I was researching a problem where my pedal would go soft at an immediate brake creating a ABS event. What I read was that if work was done on your brakes the ABS may need to be reset. From my research on the net I read that if you take the car out and simulate about 5-6 ABS events, sudden hard breaking it should set the brakes back in and it should get hard again. Just a thought.

I know this is an old thread but I'm really grateful for this advice from Wildcard, I too was having spongy brakes after an ABS event, I did exactly what you suggested and it fixed the problem! This single advice saved me a lot of time and money, thanks again!!

Wildcard26 December-19th-2017 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by tak06 (Post 423923)
I know this is an old thread but I'm really grateful for this advice from Wildcard, I too was having spongy brakes after an ABS event, I did exactly what you suggested and it fixed the problem! This single advice saved me a lot of time and money, thanks again!!

Great to hear. Cheers!

Bighad January-21st-2018 05:43 PM

Wow! My kids 08 did the same thing..a whistling sound and spongy brakes after an ABS situation occurred. I will have him do this for sure if I get his car fixed from another issue!

WongSSJ July-15th-2018 04:55 PM

Fixed it differently
 
Hi everyone, i had the same issue with my mazda3s 2010 this week, the breakes worked fine on my way to work, but when I arrived and parked the breaks didn’t respond as they used to, I thought the tires slipped in the parking lot cement... when i went back home that that afternoon I discovered the smushy breaks... they where down aprox 1 inch before starting to really break... in my way home I pumped the break repedily when I was on a full stop, doing that seemed to fix the issue, but went bad as soon as Instarted driving again... and after like 5 or 6 attempts they were fixed permanently... do you think It was air on the lines? Do you recommend to take it to the mechanic anyway?

CiiZii July-6th-2019 11:04 AM

flushing fluid worked, but my observation and theory...
 
I know this is an old thread, but perhaps my experience will reduce someone's confusion/stress/anxiety.

2004 Mazda3 S Manual transmission, but I had same symptom after replacing rear pads and pin sleeves.
Based on this thread, I tried the slamming on brakes 4 to 8 times to activate the ABS (which did not work) because I couldn't conceive that changing pads would effect the fluid!

However, flushing brake fluid did the trick.
My best guess is that in the horrible process of trying to twist and compress the piston, (where it didn't seem to be working right and I smacked it, tried to compress with a c-clamp slightly, and backed it out by turning counterclockwise) some air got into the system. Just insanity.

RayW January-28th-2020 07:10 PM

Many thanks to Wildcard26 and everybody contributed to this post
 
I was looking around for some ideas to fix up my 2007 Mazda 3 GT. Few mechanics told me different things but either way would cost me a fortune. then i wandered into this post....Brought car out for a few hard stop and i could feel The ABS were engaged. and then i feel the difference. Man never though it could be this easy to fix the weird spongy brake problem. I’ve been having this soft brake issue for a quite sometime but been lazy fixing it as the brake still works. Feels like life is beautiful again! Thanks a million!

Robb July-19th-2020 07:33 PM

Same problem, stomping on brake doesn't help
 
I just bought my dtr a 2010 that has the same spongy brake problem. I tried trying to activate the ABS many times as mentioned but no change. Not only did it not fix it, but the ABS didn't work since at least 1 tire locked up and was skidding. So spongy brakes, no ABS, and no ABS warning light.
I see many complaints about this, and someone says there's even a TSB for it so obviously it's a manufacturing problem. but Mazda won't do sh!t without the customer paying about $2k. What the hell?

Itsrejk August-27th-2020 10:46 PM

Mazda3 Brake Disaster
 
I have a 2011 Mazda3 with 112,000 miles. I’ve been having brake issues. The pedal is very spongy. The car stops with the pedal nearly touching the floor, but when you double pump the brake pedal it stops as a normal car should. When you press the brake pedal you can hear and feel what sounds like air releasing until the pedal goes as low as it will go.

I took it to a mechanic who replaced the rotors and brake pads and bled the brakes. Hundred of dollars later, the problem persisted.

I took it to another mechanic who bled the brakes again, clamped hoses to release fluid. The problem persisted.

Finally I went to the dealer. They said I have a leak in the ABS hydraulic pump AND a leak in the master cylinder AND I need to reflush the system. They are saying it will cost $2,400. I’m not sure why the abs and master cylinder are failing and I’m frustrated that none of this is recalled or covered by warranty. Why are Mazda’s brakes failing us? Isn’t this dangerous?

Has anyone had this issue?? Advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Rader September-22nd-2021 04:32 PM

spongy brakes
 
I have same issue on 2011 Mazda3 with 112,000 miles. The brake pedal is very "soft", but works "ok" if pumped a few times. Local mechanic shop says bad ABS control and pump and will be $1,500. Is this reasonable?? Should I take to the dealer?

tyrant911 April-16th-2022 12:42 AM

Same :(
 

Originally Posted by Nikka1 (Post 418220)
I have a 2004 Mazda 3 2.0 manual. I am having issues with the braking system. My pedal is very spongy and goes to the stop but if I double pump it it is a good pedal. I am a mechanic myself but I can't worked out whats going on. I have replaced theaster cylinder, stripped the calipers and inspected them. Bleed the brakes a few times. Even when I block off all the lines the pedal is still not good. It also makes a really quiet whistling noise when you release the brakes. If you have had a similar problem or have any ideas please help.

It sounds like you got air in through the master cylinder while working on your break lines. I'm still trying to solve the problem myself. I'm looking into bleeding the master cylinder while still connected to the car.

Good luck,


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