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Fogs on w/out headlights???
anyone know how to make the fogs come on with parking lights only?
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i know it can be done on the MSP's, sure it can be done on the 3's too. ?
Originally Posted by sturso
(Post 378473)
anyone know how to make the fogs come on with parking lights only?
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All I can find is instructions on how to do it for the Protege5/MazdaSpeed Protege. No luck on the 3. Sorry man, I don't think anyone's done it yet. You're welcome to keep searching and let us know if you find it.
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found info on the speed6 on the "other" forum, should work for the 3?
Originally Posted by ChicagoKid
Drew from Mazda6 club wrote this and it works for the 06 U.S. Speed6 too.
I just did it tonight and it was a cake to do. MAKE SURE you follow his direction to a 'T'. THE MOD... This modification disconnects the control of the fog light relay from the headlight relay's switch, and instead connects it to the relay that controls the taillights, parking lights, side markers, and license plate lights. This way, the auto-off feature will still work, and you won't get caught leaving the fog lights on. The fog lights will now be controllable when only the parking lights are on. YEAH!!!! Ok, now here's my handy-dandy picture. I only took one after I finished the job, but I circled and color-coded everything of interest, so it should be sufficient. Here are the steps involved: 1. Disconnect the negative battery cable. This time it's for real! 2. Disconnect the 2 nuts I've circled in cyan, and remove the 2 terminals from their studs. 3. Detach the wiring harness on the left from the fuse panel. I circled in yellow where it's attached. It can be jiggled free from there. Don't bother disconnecting the connector...that won't help. It's the wires underneath this harness that are holding the panel in the box. 4. Loosen the 4 clips circled in green and lift the fuse panel free of the box. I also had to cut some tape near where I've indicated in orange (edit: I marked the orange area to the left of where I should have...the tape is where the bundle of wires comes in just beneath the main fuse between those two terminals you removed) in order to lift it completely. Once you take these steps, there will still be a whole bunch of wires holding the fuse panel down, but it should now be free enough to do what we need. 5. You need to locate the wire that energizes the fog light relay coil. This is the terminal indicated as white on the fog light relay, which is indicated as red in my picture (Seed6 is ON THE LOWER RIGHT). Locate this wire underneath the fuse panel. It was a solid pale green color in my car (also on a 2006 U.S. Speed6). 6. Once you locate the proper wire, follow it as far from the relay as you can, and cut it. You need to keep enough length to complete the modification. The wire should eventually lead back into the panel to another relay, but I couldn't trace it that far...it was stuck in a bundle with piece of tape, but I still had enough length. Tape the free end closed, because it will still be energized whenever your headlights are on and high-beams are off. 7. Route this wire over to the top of the panel to the taillight relay indicated in blue. The 'white' terminal is where it needs to go. You can see the wire in my picture if you look closely. I just stripped the end and stuffed it in the appropriate socket before re-inserting the relay. 8. Reassemble everything in the reverse order...you're done. Now test the modification. One more thing...don't go thinking you can just run a wire between these two relays in order to avoid disconnecting the panel. If you don't cut the existing wire, you will create a short whenever you turn on the high-beams. Don't go cutting wires if you're unsure about something. The only difference is that our Fog Relay is not where the regular 6's have theirs. Ours is on the lower right, next to the two terminals he circled in cyan. When you open the fuse box, you'll see the diagram where our fog relay is. The procedures are the same... |
thanks for the info guys...you rock...i'll let you know how i make out...
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Originally Posted by Jackelope
(Post 378494)
found info on the speed6 on the "other" forum, should work for the 3?
where did u find this. i would like to read it with the pics. |
Originally Posted by theGURU
(Post 381624)
where did u find this. i would like to read it with the pics.
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only 1 picture:
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/attac...hmentid=100807 and by "other" forum, i mean www.mazdas247.com |
yeah i did that, i bought mine aftermarket though. and they come on with the seperately from the headlights
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Can anyone speculate if this would be the same procedure for models equipped with auto-on headlights?
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As previously stated, it can be done on the MS3. So I'm pretty sure it's do-able on the regular 3's. There's a how-to on the mazda3forums, but I can't for the life of me get on there on this computer, so if you're that interested you'll have to go and search over there.
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Originally Posted by KrayzieFox
(Post 378485)
All I can find is instructions on how to do it for the Protege5/MazdaSpeed Protege. No luck on the 3. Sorry man, I don't think anyone's done it yet. You're welcome to keep searching and let us know if you find it.
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yes, this is do-able on mazda3's.
heres the link.... http://www.mazda3forums.com/index.php?topic=11730.0 |
Originally Posted by dentinger
(Post 386437)
yes, this is do-able on mazda3's.
heres the link.... http://www.mazda3forums.com/index.php?topic=11730.0 |
if you live in canada with DRL's, then follow this - http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26232
if you are in the states, and do not have DRL's, follow this one - http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3721 |
Originally Posted by njaremka
(Post 386458)
if you live in canada with DRL's, then follow this - http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26232
if you are in the states, and do not have DRL's, follow this one - http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3721 |
Originally Posted by vw2p5
(Post 386637)
are those instructions for the protege5. To be able to turn the foglights on without having to have the headlights on?
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Another way to get your fog's under control
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You can do this much more steath like if you have the wiring diagram... I'm attempting to attach pics of the needed pages if you want to make a circuit yourself. I hated that the fog's don't come on until your low beams are on - and the low beams negate the need or usefulness of the fog's, so i'm turning them on with the parking lights and off with the low beams.
In all cases shown here, you need the wire piece attached to the harness, not the connector. Make note where I say splice vs cut wire. OK, so the cheap, easy, not much needed approach is to wire the fog switch directly to the fog relay ground - which bypasses the computer control that turns the fog's off with your hi beams. This mod is done by cutting the black/red (black with red stripe) wire on J-04 position W (fog switch) and splicing it to J-02 position X black/red wire (fog relay negative). This is the ground side control for the relay, the computer control here can be pulled to ground without damage, just don't pull it high - or just cut the wire from the connector if you're worried. But now the relay power is still tied to the headlight low beams, so this only allows the fog lamps to turn on when the low beams are on - which is how it is stock. To keep the low beams under full control, you need to cut the red/black wire on J-01 position D (positive feed to the relay coil) and splice it to something like the running lights on J-01 position K (orn/blue) to allow the fog relay to be powered when the running lights are on, meaning that you won't forget and drain your battery with the fog lights on cause there's a beeper for your running lights. You could also splice to an ignition signal but it's farther away on J-03 pin AP (grn/ylw). The sophisticated way is to make a circuit similar to what I did (attached schematic), that has an enable and disable line - so you can decide when the fog's will be controlled by the fog switch. I chose to tie the enable to the running lights which is also powering the fog relay positive, and the disable line to the low lights J-01 pin C (orn/wht), . The big reason for additional circuitry rather than just a relay adder that switches when you turn your low beams on, is that I added a delay, so if I want my fog's on, just turn on the running lights with the fog switch turned on and they come on in a few hundred milliseconds. If the fog switch is on and you switch quickly from all lights off to low lights on, the circuit will enable and disable before the delay expires, and the fog lamps don't turn on at all - saving relay contact life and bulb life. To protect my circuitry, I added a 1n4004 diode across the fog relay - inside the case which prevents the back EMF from causing a voltage spike when it's turned off. The schematic shows 30V worth of zeners, which is technically a good practice for protecting the FET that I used, but there wasn't really a good amount of room to add that in, and there should never be voltage spikes that high in the system anyway. I'm guessing there will be more q's on how to get this to work, so feel free to ask, I can add different schematic pages from the manual if needed. Summary for wire locations: J-01 connector - Low lamps right side - pin C orange with a white stripe J-01 connector - Rear right parking lights - pin K orange with a blue stripe J-01 connector - pin D - two wires - red with black stripe = fog coil +, orange with a green stripe = low lamp left J-02 connector - fog relay ground - pin X black with red stripe J-03 connector - ignition signal (didn't use this one) - pin AP green with a yellow stripe J-04 connector - fog switch (switches to ground) - pin W black with a red stripe |
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