Mazdaspeed3 winter tire recommendations
I bought my Mazdaspeed3 after all the snow was done last spring, but am now starting to look into what I should do for winter tires. The car salesman said the Bridgestone Potenza performance tires will not do at all on snow. I live in Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota, and my Speed3 is my daily (i.e. only) driver, and despite any jokes someone may feel like cracking about Minnesota winters, most of the time, I'll be driving on dry pavement. But, I don't want to become housebound (or worse, workbound) by 2 inches of snow.
I've had various suggestions from getting 17" wheels with snow tires to just swapping some all season performance rubber (specifically Pirelli PZero Nero M+S Ultra High Performance All Season tires) onto my existing 18s or a second set of 18s. There seems to be agreement that 17s, but probably not 16s, will fit over the larger brakes of the speed3. The main argument against snow tires is that I'll be driving on dry (albeit cold) pavement the majority of the time, and the snow tire tread won't last more than 1 or 2 seasons. If the Pirellis are good enough for winter traction while still giving reasonable tread life, the question then becomes whether to bother with a second set of wheels for daily use, or just drive the all-season Pirellis in all seasons. Does anyone have any experience the can offer with the Pirelli PZeros, or even all season performance rubber in general? Any other thoughts or experience? I'll admit to being a newbie when it comes to optioning my car with anything different than it came with... |
some mazda6 17's should fit, if you want to make it "stock" looking - those paired with some dedicated snow tires will make for a fun winter car. don't skimp on "all-season" performance tires, nothing beats a good set of dedicated snow's.
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if your just looking for the cheapest way to do it, get 2 extra rims and mount some snow tires on them... unless you have access to a place you can mount tires yourself.... switching the tires on the same rims year after year could get expensive... try and find a junk yard with a Mazda 6 or 3 in it and grab the wheels off, that would be alot cheaper than buying new ones from Mazda.... or any sort of after market ones...
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sorry to get off topic here. but this reminded me of a rather funny story... last winter a friend of mine wanted me to take a look at the new subs he put in his civic... so i open the trunk to find 3 bags of sand.... i was rather confused.... i asked him why he carried sand bags around... he seriously thought it would help him with traction in the snow.... in a honda civic.... just when i think im the dumbest guy in the world.... somebody else shows up....
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I would suggest checking out www.nokyantyres.com. Probably hasn't filtered down to the Japanese cars yet but I wouldn't put any other winter tire on the Audi or the Porsche.
Just my .02 Hope this helps |
I run Yokohama AVS winter tires and they are the ish!They are 18's and fit on the stock rims with a nice low profile so that no one will think they are winter tires.I paid $1400 Canadian for them so they were a little pricey but they perform very well in the snow(last winter here was insane with tons of snow and a city that doesn't give a shit about snow removal).Good luck.
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my trouble isn't with snow traction, (have new michelins energy mxv 4 plus not sure how they will do in the snow, will find out soon enough!!! hopefully not after i slide into a huge ditch!) but with ice build up in side my rims which makes for a serious out of balance wobble! any one eles with this problem? (stock 16 rims with 205/55s) so I'm always washing off huge ice chunks! :cookoo:
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Originally Posted by suzoom
(Post 393725)
my trouble isn't with snow traction, (have new michelins energy mxv 4 plus not sure how they will do in the snow, will find out soon enough!!! hopefully not after i slide into a huge ditch!) but with ice build up in side my rims which makes for a serious out of balance wobble! any one eles with this problem? (stock 16 rims with 205/55s) so I'm always washing off huge ice chunks! :cookoo:
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or do what I do with my wheels in the winter.. take a stick and poke the snow out.
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Originally Posted by _Kansei_
(Post 393798)
or do what I do with my wheels in the winter.. take a stick and poke the snow out.
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You could always buy some cloth/plastic wheel/tire covers like the ones used in auto shops. Than way, no ice/snow would collect on your rims/tires at all. It'd be a daily routine of removing them (if snow is prevalent in the forecast), but might be worth it. But as far as a tire recommendation... I live in the south, so in short, it don't snow that much down here.
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I run dunlop sport m3 on my wifes mazda millenia the grip in the snow and ice is great and the dry performance is also very good.
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Originally Posted by churchid
(Post 386970)
The car salesman said the Bridgestone Potenza performance tires will not do at all on snow.
I just picked up the P-Zero in 18s, but haven't had them installed yet. Of course, it's not snowing yet in VA, either. |
Originally Posted by churchid
(Post 386970)
I bought my Mazdaspeed3 after all the snow was done last spring, but am now starting to look into what I should do for winter tires. The car salesman said the Bridgestone Potenza performance tires will not do at all on snow. I live in Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota, and my Speed3 is my daily (i.e. only) driver, and despite any jokes someone may feel like cracking about Minnesota winters, most of the time, I'll be driving on dry pavement. But, I don't want to become housebound (or worse, workbound) by 2 inches of snow.
I've had various suggestions from getting 17" wheels with snow tires to just swapping some all season performance rubber (specifically Pirelli PZero Nero M+S Ultra High Performance All Season tires) onto my existing 18s or a second set of 18s. There seems to be agreement that 17s, but probably not 16s, will fit over the larger brakes of the speed3. The main argument against snow tires is that I'll be driving on dry (albeit cold) pavement the majority of the time, and the snow tire tread won't last more than 1 or 2 seasons. If the Pirellis are good enough for winter traction while still giving reasonable tread life, the question then becomes whether to bother with a second set of wheels for daily use, or just drive the all-season Pirellis in all seasons. Does anyone have any experience the can offer with the Pirelli PZeros, or even all season performance rubber in general? Any other thoughts or experience? I'll admit to being a newbie when it comes to optioning my car with anything different than it came with... We had a pretty mild winter last year and for all the dry road I drove over, the tread looked great when I examined them yesterday. |
Originally Posted by ceejay
(Post 397110)
I can't imagine living in Minnesota and not having snow tires. I'm a Central New Yorker and drive a Mazda 3, I bought a set of Blizzaks on cheap rims all around...(just put them back on yesterday as a matter of fact). They actually hold up pretty well on dry pavement and are priceless on ice and in slush, let alone snow.
We had a pretty mild winter last year and for all the dry road I drove over, the tread looked great when I examined them yesterday. Glad to see there's at least someone smart in upstate ny :P |
i got my snows on now - 195/50-16 dunlop graspic gs-2's on stock alloys. its nice having a car with throttle response again after running my old steelie's with big all seasons for the last month. and even on snow's, the car handles much better now too.
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Originally Posted by _Kansei_
(Post 397112)
Even in Rochester I don't ever see cars with snow tires on during the winter.. but I sure do see a lot of smashed up cars on the side of the highway. When will people learn? The only people I've seen running snow tires in Rochester are one of my roommates and myself.. and we're both from out of state :P
Glad to see there's at least someone smart in upstate ny :P Oh and how funny is it for me to see all the SUV's littering the highway in the winter as people learn (or maybe not) that four wheel drive doesn't mean squat when you are driving on ice, and changing lanes with a high center of gravity...:yelrotflm |
^^ or when you try to stop :P
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I bought some Michelin Pilot Alpin PA2s for my 3 that I put on my stock wheels and they are the best tires I have ever driven with in the snow. My tires are 17's but they might be offered in 18s.
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Just wanted to drop a quick note that 16in steels fit just fine on my MazdaSpeed3. I bought a winter tire package from www.tirerack.com. I bought some continental's, but that was with some bias behind it ::cough cough my job cough::.
Even though they're steel rims, they're black and so is my paint job... so I'm gonna keep it. I think it looks slick... |
I use Nokian 205/50/17 on my MPS.Pics in profile.
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Speed3 Winter Tires
Picked up a 3 speed this past Spring as well. Just ordered 4 x 215/45R-18 Michelin X-Ice Xi2 for 600 beans. Added the Kazera wheels because steel wheels look very stupid on this car. Tire Rack.com
I have no idea if these Michelin's are the best. I do know that Michelin makes a great tire and they still throw the all seasons on alot of our foreign and domestics. I spent the xtra ching on winter tires because all season are NOT winter and that is very important for the performance of a car whose horsepower out weighs itself on crappy, slippery conditions. Spend 1400.00 now on good winter tread and wheels or take a hell of a chance on spending 3 or 5 grand repairing your car and possibly risking your safety with these boneheads on the Twin City freeways. Your choice. Drive fast and safe! |
I called the Tire Rack and they set me up with a set of Blizzacks on steel rims and the car goes anywhere. I don't believe stock mazda 3 rims will fit the speed3.
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I didn't go with the alloy cause in a year or two they'll look like crap. When the car is covered with salt and snow I would rather go thru it than look good, also remember the narrower the better in tread width for snows, it's all about PSI.
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