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Gen1GT January-20th-2004 07:35 PM

What's the fastest all motor Protege?
 
What's the quickest/faster all motor Protege out there? Anyone know of one in the 14s?

midnightblue97 January-21st-2004 02:11 PM

Don't think so, nobody really bothers to go NA with these cars. Its turbo, nitrous or nothing. I'd like to but I don't have the fuckin cash.
Some of the guys that were trying it were having trouble getting 120WHP. The factory ECU was holding them back severely.

Gen1GT January-21st-2004 05:55 PM

Well, I swear to you then Ryan, that Josh is going to make the fastest all motor Protege on the continent. I'm going to dedicate all my resources to it.....

I still want to know how fast the fastest currently is...

midnightblue97 January-21st-2004 07:51 PM

Good, I'll hopefully be at the track when you make your 14 second passes.

ProteZE February-14th-2004 11:12 PM

<---- 13.7s on street tires, NA Mazda motor

macdaddyslomo February-14th-2004 11:54 PM

he's not saying NA FS-DE though

Gen1GT February-15th-2004 07:10 AM


Originally posted by ProteZE
<---- 13.7s on street tires, NA Mazda motor
What motor though? KL-ZE? I'm assuming that if you're from Toronto, you must be doing something with A-Spec? What year Protege are you driving? I was more refering to all motor 4 cyl cars, since that's the all motor class.

Phantom Cruiser February-15th-2004 11:53 AM

no one has run a 14 (or a high 15?) in a NA protege?? damn.

Gen1GT February-15th-2004 05:40 PM

Fasted all motor time I've heard of, is 15.3@91.

http://www.dragtimes.com/browse3.php...rmodel=Protege

Hard to believe there aren't any 14s. There will be though. This summer...guaranteed.

323PR February-15th-2004 06:28 PM


Originally posted by Phantom Cruiser
no one has run a 14 (or a high 15?) in a NA protege?? damn.
:D

my last raceway park day

reaction.......703
60ft..............2.306
330ft............6.274
1/8ET...........9.584
1/8mph.........74.27
1/4ET............14.894
1/4mph..........92

ALL Motor mazda from PUERTO RICO with LOve;)
323 1994
1.8L Doch non NOS, NON TURBO is hard to belive but is real
we have others 323(V6 in 14.4) , protege turbos and KIAs turbos and all motors run very good
COming Soon the VIDEO!!!!!!!! with other Boricua mazda's:)

Phantom Cruiser February-15th-2004 06:30 PM


Originally posted by 323PR
:D

my last raceway park day

reaction.......703
60ft..............2.306
330ft............6.274
1/8ET...........9.584
1/8mph.........74.27
1/4ET............14.894
1/4mph..........92

ALL Motor mazda from PUERTO RICO with LOve;)
323 1994
1.8L Doch non NOS, NON TURBO is hard to belive but is real

COming Soon the VIDEO!!!!!!!! with other Boricua mazda's:)

nice...what does one of those weigh?

323PR February-15th-2004 06:37 PM


Originally posted by Phantom Cruiser
nice...what does one of those weigh?

i dont know the weigh but is my daily use car with A/C an full inter... aprox 2,300 (in the doors 3,330)

igdrasil February-15th-2004 08:25 PM

:D

im slow

14.9 with turbo :(

Gen1GT February-16th-2004 08:30 AM

Nice times. It's still crazy that the fastest all motor Protege is 15.3. There's a guy in Quebec building an all motor 323 too. They have a good weight advantage over the sedans, but the Protege is still a pretty light car.

I'll be very disappointed if the first day at the track this spring doesn't get me into the 15s.

igdrasil February-16th-2004 08:59 AM

We shall not be ashamed...

My friend's Civic SI which has 165HP stock made 16.0 stock...

He have done a LOT of mods, its nearly hybrid, after a few mods he managed to do 15.5, more mods, 15.3, more mods 14.8, and finally 14.5, thats after 4 years and 80K miles.

He also had to rebuild it completely.

Gen1GT February-16th-2004 10:56 AM

Those Si's already have a well tuned engine. I also have a weight advantage. 3rd gen Proteges weight quite a bit, especially the P5s. If he got 16 seconds stock with 165hp, and I'm getting 16.3 with 125hp(stock) and only a muffler, the gains I make in power, will net a faster 1/4mile time.

ie. My car weighs 2300lbs, has 125hp, and it does the quarter in 16.3@84. Adding 25hp to my car, will drop me into the 14s.

His car weighs 2700lbs, has 165 and does the quarter in 16, then adding 25hp will make him only a little faster in the end.

I'm not worried about how long it will take to make my car fast. I know what I'm doing, and I know how to make horsepower. There won't be much experimenting in what I'm doing...I have a game-plan. I'm not just going to bolt on parts, and hope I get power. I'm doing some custom work, so it gets power where I want it. With all my bolt-on work done this year, and head/cam work in the winter, there's no reason I won't be low 14s next year, maybe even 13s with stand alone engine management.

igdrasil February-16th-2004 10:58 AM

we have what they dont have an viceversa

Torque

Gen1GT February-16th-2004 01:11 PM

I don't have torque. My engine is much different from yours. 1.8DOHC, 125hp 114lb/ft torque. Power is up high too, 6500rpm, with 7300rpm fuel cutoff. The BP normally dynoes more than the FS too, and the FS is rated 5hp more. Best baseline run I've seen of the FS was 105, worst I've seen for the BP was 107. I got 111.

Your car does have more torque though, and you need it. My car is super light, so I don't need it. It's all about high rpm power for me...........:D

ProteZE February-16th-2004 05:17 PM


Originally posted by Gen1GT
What motor though? KL-ZE? I'm assuming that if you're from Toronto, you must be doing something with A-Spec? What year Protege are you driving? I was more refering to all motor 4 cyl cars, since that's the all motor class.

Yeah ... i been friends with them since 98 and i quit my IT job and work at the shop now. I designed their webpage and I am going to take over the management ( let the guys do what they do best ... cars ) and i am also opening up a online store.

Any of you guys here deal with them ?

What is the general concent ?

Phantom Cruiser February-16th-2004 06:24 PM

well...i didn't want to do this...but i just might have to take my car back to the track when it gets a teensy bit warmer! i figured that the hp gains might net a low 16 or 16-flat, but perhaps with driving (and me being a featherweight and all) i can break into the 15s?

Gen1GT February-17th-2004 12:48 AM

I haven't been to A-Spec myself, but my friend Mike Moschella bought his 93 GT there, and he's there all the time. I'm going to be picking up an RX-7 AFM from A Spec. I heard they have a few.

Phantom. You'll need a lot of work to hit the 15s, even if you are light. P5s are heavy. You'll need at least 130whp to hit 15s in your car.

Phantom Cruiser February-18th-2004 12:04 PM


Originally posted by Gen1GT
Phantom. You'll need a lot of work to hit the 15s, even if you are light. P5s are heavy. You'll need at least 130whp to hit 15s in your car.
...I'm pretty close....;)

I'm due for another dyno check to make sure.

Gen1GT February-18th-2004 08:02 PM

How close? What have you dynoed so far, and with what mods? What mods do you have now? Also, what was your best drag time? I'm curious since as to what mods got you how much power....

Phantom Cruiser February-19th-2004 07:32 PM


Originally posted by Gen1GT
How close? What have you dynoed so far, and with what mods? What mods do you have now? Also, what was your best drag time? I'm curious since as to what mods got you how much power....
LOL

the best response i can give you is click on the pic in my sig which will take you to my website, from there click on the 'banana' link at the top and that will take you where you need to go. the car has not been run in the current configuration and it has changed since the last dyno.

thanks,


karen

Gen1GT February-20th-2004 06:30 AM

I can't view that page. I get a component driver mismatch, and it shuts down my browser. why don't you just tell me how much power you're getting, and what mods you've done since then?

Phantom Cruiser February-20th-2004 12:21 PM


Originally posted by Gen1GT
I can't view that page. I get a component driver mismatch, and it shuts down my browser. why don't you just tell me how much power you're getting, and what mods you've done since then?
probably because i've said it a million times and i hate typing:eek:

stock i ran 16.8@81.5, dyno'd 102hp & 114tq

i dyno'd with intake, muffler, cams & header 120hp & 125tq but never ran it at the track...

there have been a couple of changes here and there, i'd tell you, but then i'd have to kill you ;) ...

sorry about my page, perhaps the server had issues?

Gen1GT February-20th-2004 12:43 PM


Originally posted by Phantom Cruiser
probably because i've said it a million times and i hate typing:eek:

stock i ran 16.8@81.5, dyno'd 102hp & 114tq

i dyno'd with intake, muffler, cams & header 120hp & 125tq but never ran it at the track...

there have been a couple of changes here and there, i'd tell you, but then i'd have to kill you ;) ...

sorry about my page, perhaps the server had issues?

Those numbers sound right for a P5. It's funny how the BP1.8 dynoes more than the new 2.0. My baseline was 111whp(with an axle back and power steering removed). Your might might be close to the 15s. I know I'm there, but haven't been to the track to prove it. I'm making 115whp with only 2300lbs to pull.

Phantom Cruiser February-20th-2004 03:06 PM


Originally posted by Gen1GT
Those numbers sound right for a P5. It's funny how the BP1.8 dynoes more than the new 2.0. My baseline was 111whp(with an axle back and power steering removed). Your might might be close to the 15s. I know I'm there, but haven't been to the track to prove it. I'm making 115whp with only 2300lbs to pull.
yeah, i have about 4-500 lbs more weight on my vehicle :( i could ditch my interior...but i love it so!!


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