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macdaddyslomo May-20th-2005 01:47 PM

Rotary Valves
 
Check it out !!! 14,500 rpms on a piston engine !!!!??? http://www.coatesengine.com/technology.html

scotty878 May-20th-2005 01:59 PM

Wow...thats so sick!!! With all the claimed advantages they should start production on that! Even cooler is that they're like half an hour from where I live!

juddz May-20th-2005 02:15 PM

Coates valve engines have been around for a long time in R&D centers. There are several primary reasons why they never made it into production:
1) If it seals, then friction is high
2) If friction is low, it won't seal
3) Cost... (remember that in the auto industry, a half a cent cost reduction between two similar parts is often enough to drive an engineering change)
I met a guy at the Society of Automotive Engineers congress a couple of years ago who had a Coates valve head design, and told him the above. Without reason, he became furious with me and started on an anti-Japanese rant. But, that's a story for another time.

Roddimus Prime May-20th-2005 04:22 PM

holy crap. If that were a little more feasible I'd surely get one and play around with it....that might be just the thing my turbo pinto needs....double it's rpms. Hell even something 12K rpms would be insane.

QWKSILVR02 May-25th-2005 06:50 PM

Jesus, prime how many cars do you have?

macdaddyslomo May-25th-2005 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by QWKSILVR02
Jesus, prime how many cars do you have?

He has TOO many....I have NO idea how he is still married

juddz May-25th-2005 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by macdaddyslomo
He has TOO many....I have NO idea how he is still married

Sometimes that's the problem. When the Mazda3 came out, my fiance and I went to the car lot to check them out. She was asking me questions like, "what's it going to take to put you in one of these?" Man, if she could just arrange financing, I wouldn't even need the darned salespeople!

goldstar May-25th-2005 10:15 PM

Modern Formula 1 engines are all normally aspirated, 3.0L V-10's with a maximum of 5 valves/cylinder allowed. They routinely rev to 18,000 RPM.

macdaddyslomo May-26th-2005 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by goldstar
Modern Formula 1 engines are all normally aspirated, 3.0L V-10's with a maximum of 5 valves/cylinder allowed. They routinely rev to 18,000 RPM.

Yes, but check the cost of an f-1 engine

juddz May-26th-2005 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by macdaddyslomo
Yes, but check the cost of an f-1 engine

Also, think very short stroke and big bore. One of the limiting factors in engine design is piston speed. Short stroke means the piston has less distance to travel in a given stroke, hence lower piston speed, hence lower inertia...

Roddimus Prime May-26th-2005 01:58 PM

i switch cars about every year. The P5 is my favorite though. I've had it a little over 2 years now. To answer the question I only have 5 cars now. I only drive 2 of them though...the others are in various states of build.

juddz May-26th-2005 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by Roddimus Prime
i switch cars about every year. The P5 is my favorite though. I've had it a little over 2 years now. To answer the question I only have 5 cars now. I only drive 2 of them though...the others are in various states of build.

List 'em up, Hoss.

I've only got three vehicles in my household:
1) 2003 Mazda Protege5
2) 2004 Oldsmobile Alero (Fiance's car)
3) 1982 Yamaha XZ550 (converted to cafe racer)

Roddimus Prime May-26th-2005 03:05 PM

very OT but here goes. (in order of age)

1967 Mustang GT (k-code 289cid) 297hp, 312lb-ft 3spd auto, candy red with black pleather

1976 MustangII (pinto) 2.3L SVO-turbo powered, T3/T4 turbo, volvo intercooler, full 3" turboback exhaust, 18-23psi, c3 automatic 3spd tranny (now detroyed)

1986 Mazda RX7 , future daily beater/flame thrower, (thanks Barry)

2003 Protege5, nothing special bout it :wink:

2004 Mazda RX8, girls car.

macdaddyslomo May-26th-2005 06:23 PM

Here's my stock

2000 Mazda Protege DX(my baby)

1990 Mazda MX-6 GT(the beast) 3" exhaust, Cone Filter,Stage 2 Clutch, MBC, ZombieSS Chip(Eliminates boost Cut and remaps fuel to allow 14-16 lbs of boost on stock fuel)

1993 Saturn SC1 Coupe(wife's car,blah !)


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