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bbsf2 November-7th-2004 04:32 PM

timing and nitrous
 
i was wondering if you would have to retard the timing for the 65 and 75 shot. I have a zex wet kit and it does say to retard the timing 2 degrees for a 65 shot and 4 degrees for a 75 shot. do i have to do this or would the pro be able to run without doing this, because i dont have the money to buy a piggyback at this time. or is there a way to retard the timing without a piggyback. i have an 02 protege with coil packs, not a distributor. thanks a lot for any answers in advance.

Roddimus Prime November-7th-2004 04:56 PM

you should check out Jacobs Electronics Nitrous Mastermind controller. I don't think it's very pricey at all and Jacobs makes great products.

bbsf2 November-7th-2004 05:17 PM

ill take a look at it. is there any way to retard timing without this?

bbsf2 November-7th-2004 05:26 PM

would any of these work with the pro's ignition?
http://www.prostreetonline.com/store...onics/nitrous/
the crane one is the one that i am looking at. thanks alot.

Roddimus Prime November-7th-2004 05:35 PM

you should buy the jacobs. Sure the others are cheaper but they require you actually own their ignition system.

to get a final opinion you should call these companies and ask them what they say. I've used Jacobs and swear by them.

bbsf2 November-7th-2004 05:44 PM

thanks alot i hope this supercharger you have goin works out ive been keepin an eye on it

1ofdfew323 December-5th-2004 05:52 PM

Im running stock timing on my 1.8 dohc bp w/ 60 shots nos.

protito December-22nd-2004 11:04 PM

What kind of times do you run in the all motor setup???

bbsf2 December-24th-2004 10:10 PM

i only have run it once, and that is when i had intake and exhaust, and i ran a 16.9, not to much to brag about, but better then nothing i plan on running with nitrous this season, and i am hoping on hitting a mid to low fifteen with a 65 shot, but i honeslty have no idea what i will hit

1ofdfew323 December-24th-2004 10:21 PM

16.9. Just wondering, is this with full interior and street tires?

Roddimus Prime December-24th-2004 10:32 PM

16.9s WITH a 60hp shot? What kind of car are we talking about again? My bone stock P5 ran a 16.4s on street tires with full interior. I think I had the ms muffler at the time, maybe a SRI...

I'd figure ANYTHING with a 60hp shot on it would do a little better than a stock P5!

bbsf2 December-25th-2004 06:07 PM

16.9 with intake and exhaust, and it was my first time at the track and my reaction times were horrible. with a 65 shot i hope to hit a mid to low 15. i should also have a better reaction time, so who nknows. full interior and bald tires that came with the car. i have a 2002 protege

Roddimus Prime December-27th-2004 09:21 AM

oh ok, biggest thing you could to help out your times is the AWR front motor mount. This will allow for much better launches.

Before the mount I had to launch at 2600rpms....afterwards...4500rpms!

bbsf2 December-28th-2004 09:30 AM

ill take a look into that because i need all the help i can get. with nitrous, i barley get any traction in first and 2nd gear spins halway threw. im am going to try differnet ways of lauanching the car, and hopefully i will get it right.

Roddimus Prime December-28th-2004 09:49 AM

is your nitrous kit a dry or wet kit? How is it activated? WOT switch, button or what?

On my ZEX dry I would launch out of the hole without the juice at about half throttle and once it hooked up go WOT....once that hooked up I would spray. This usually got me the best times. in my SHO w/ ZEX I was hittin 7.90s in the 1/8th on street tires


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