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ProteZE February-22nd-2004 12:14 AM

Intercooler end-tank design
 
Hello

I am starting a turbo project .... so i am reading up on turbos and related stuff.

I bought a intecooler core and i was wondering what is the best desing for the end tanks .....

This one Just looks wrong .... the charge has to make make a 90° turn and than another 90° turn. I think this would cause a pressure drop and the air will lose velocity for sure.
A)
http://www.proturbokits.com/intercooler.jpg

This one has the end tanks at the very top and it is a tall core ... i am guessing the bottom part of the cooler is not as active as the bottom part ( making this cooler the equivalnet of a smaller better designed one )

B)
http://www.linkline.com/personal/dba...tercooler1.jpg

This one i think is the best for keeping the pressure
C)
http://tampabay.dsm.org/projects/jpe...tall_thumb.jpg

This one has even smoother design
D)
http://www.gikturbo.se/bilder/intercooler.gif

E) And than you can also go water cooled if you want

http://www.reichardracing.com/intercooler_big2.jpg

Does water normally just sit in a liquid cooler or do they make the water flow ?

ProteZE February-22nd-2004 01:16 AM

Now second section to intercooler desing ....

The inner design of the core.

Cooling vs Flow

A) Small fins, light density
B) Big fins, light density
C) Small fins, high density
D) Big fins, high densety

http://www.are.com.au/feat/techt/ft002i.JPG

What one is good for what amount of boost ? What else does the core desing affect ? How about size ? Is there any formula or good combination of internal core fins, inlet desgin, size ... etc ?

pin0yi30y February-23rd-2004 12:43 AM

TOO MANY OPTIONS!?!!?!?!?!!? ARGH!!!!!!!!

lol.... honestly man unless you are going for the perfect time,it won't matter too much whether you have larger or smaller fins and the such..

ProteZE February-23rd-2004 01:02 AM

I am just plaing my swap and i want to do everytihng right the first time ( well ... as much as possible )

And this car will be a track car, so i am doing everything i can to get teh best time i can get ....

- 1993 Mazda 323
- NA 1.8L Head ( ported and polished )
- T3/T4 ( Seq. Blowoff, 10lb Wastegate )
- 550 injectors, Sumped Tanks, 2 Inline pumps
- Hacked ECU to run the injectors
- Custom intake manifold
- 21x9x3 Intercooler
- Phantom Grip Trany
- shooting for 350-400


pin0yi30y February-23rd-2004 01:23 AM

how's the phantom grip holding up? does it help much with the wheel hop?

THEGOLDPRO February-23rd-2004 09:29 PM

dude honestly buy the corky bell book, maximum boost. it will show you all the rights, and wrongs of turbo setups, the book says C is the best design. trust me pick up the book.

ProteZE February-23rd-2004 10:44 PM


Originally posted by pin0yi30y
how's the phantom grip holding up? does it help much with the wheel hop?
I am planing on geting one or just geting someone to make it

Does anyone else have it here ?

ProteZE February-24th-2004 04:04 AM


Originally posted by THEGOLDPRO
dude honestly buy the corky bell book, maximum boost. it will show you all the rights, and wrongs of turbo setups, the book says C is the best design. trust me pick up the book.
How about turbo inlet angle ?

most i seen are either side feed ( parallel with the spinning axis )

or

perpendicular with the blades

is there a reason and what effect does it have on the turbo characteristics ?




and one more thing .... could you pull some maps for a T03e, T04e and a T3/T4 .... i want to make close to 400hp from my BP ... what one will be a good drag turbo ?

the T04e ?


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