Want to turbo charge your FS engine?
 

Some of you may have heard of Thomas Knight Engineering, who produces a turbo kit for the FS engines in 3rd gen Proteges. His kit is based on a custom built log type manifold that's less than attractive. Opinions on his kits are mixed. But now I've heard that Turbonetics produces a turbo manifold for the FS engine also. It's a bit more expensive than the TKT manifold, but should be much better quality. I'll post more info after I call them.:D

Didn't know there were FS engine in our US Protege's, could have sworn we had the FL-03 I4.
Am I wrong.

According to the factory service manual, it's an FS engine. The '93+ Probe/MX-6/626 guys refer to there engines as FS-03's. There engines are similar, but have a distributor.

Where should one look to find out which engine they have (for sure)?

Lance, you have the FSD engine.

I HAVE AN IDEA FOR YOU
 

HEH i've heard that the exhaust manifold and turbo from a 1989 mazda 323gtx fit' s the 2000 1.8 engine......is this true.....i'm trying to put a 91 626 gt turbo on my car but i don' t know what to do .....can anyone help me , what preping do i have to do :confused: Blue :eek: :rolleyes: :D :o :) ;) :p :( The FInger

i see says the blind man
 

actually i was thinking of getting a custom exhaust header and using the 626 turbo........what do i have to do to prep my engine for a turbo.....i have an exhaust and intake....but what do i need to doBlue Blue Blue Blue Blue Blue Blue Blue Blue

The FS and FP engines were loosely derived from the earlier F, F2, and FE engines from Mazda, but the bore spacing and deck height were reduced so almost none of the parts will fit between the engines, including the exhaust manifold. The bore spacing and deck height of the FS/FP engines is the same as the BP engine, so IF the bolt pattern AND the port location were the same between the BP and the FS/FP engines, the manifold might actually fit. Anyone up for an experiment?
To install a turbo on your current N/A engine requires several things, and depends on how much boost you want to run. You will need to beef up the fuel system to be able to deliver the additional fuel that will be burned. That includes things like a higher capacity fuel pump, adjustable or rising rate fuel pressure regulator, higher flowing fuel injectors, etc. You should also use an air/fuel ratio gauge to monitor the mixture, so you know your not running lean. You'll need electronics to control the turbo, ignition timing, and fuel delivery. Of course you will need all the mechanical components associated with the turbo, manifold, downpipe, intercooler, intake piping, wastegate, blow off valve, etc. Anything else I missed guys?

Turbo???
 

LAser SR2 XPlod by Ford, looks like a P5, same engine from what I see and I'm not an engine expert, however it's got Turbonetics T3/T4 from what I understand...... Would that turbo fit on some of our cars???? I don't know much about engines, so sorry if this is a dumb question........

By the way, I think it's a European model, it was posted by focalBlur at the Canadian Protege board

yeah...
 

a briefcase full of money, thats gonna cost a fortune

:crying: Thats a lot of stuff. So if a turbo kit came out for the new protege's would it have all of that stuff included with it?
How much would a turbo kit cost? Also, how much would that briefcase full of cash be holding? Guess for me, please.:D

That's what we all want to know! I'd guess $3000 to $4500, depending on how complete the kit is. Just a guess though.

dunno
 

dunno what the engine letters are etc... I will try and look it up tonight. T4 i think is a little big for out engines... a T3 would do nicely IMO... OR... I was thinking maybe a turbo from the GSX... dunno gotta look into it a bit more...

Later

http://www.xplod.com.au/cars/view.cfm?car_id=361

look at the car, and read about it, looks like the mp5, it's from ford (ford <-->mazda), from what I read somewhere it's got a 2.0....... and there's turbo kits for it.......

The 2L Zetec used in Focus's is entirely different from the 2L used in our Pro's. I have talked to a few companies about their already existing kits and they won't work.

Really the turbo isn't the big problem, it's the bracketry and possible fuel and ignition upgrades that may have to go with it.

The Ford Laser is a rebadged Mazda. It does use the Mazda FS 2.0L engine, which is different than the Ford duratec 2.0L engine. The turbo isn't the issue, the exhaust manifold is. I've heard that Turbonetics has an exhaust manifold for the FS engine. I haven't had a chance to call them yet to verify the manifold exists, but this makes it sound like it does. Turbonetics will work with you to pick the parts you need for your specific application, they won't build kits.

That would be great if a kit were available for the P5. Does anyone out there know if the current fuel and ignition system would be able to handle the addition of a turbo? What about the compression of the engine?

Coming from an Eagle Talon TSi the addition of a turbo to my P5 would be a welcome one!!!

Damn, I just called Turbonetics for information, and I forgot to ask the most important question. Can their turbo manifold maintain the stock primary cat? Sorry. Anyway, Turbonetics does make a turbo exhaust manifold for the FS/FP engine. Part #305-15 for $576, flange fits the T3 and T4 housing. They suggest their T3 super 60 turbo for a street application (72mm - .48 A/R housing). They don't currently make kits, so this would be a custom system. They are considering making kits in the near future due to demand, no word on one for the Protege specifically. It would probably be fairly low in priority if they did decide to offer a kit though. Has anyone else contacted RX-7.com to inquire about the turbo they installed on the Protege 5 shown at a Texas auto show?

Damn, I just called Turbonetics for information, and I forgot to ask the most important question. Can their turbo manifold maintain the stock primary cat? Sorry. Anyway, Turbonetics does make a turbo exhaust manifold for the FS/FP engine. Part #305-15 for $576, flange fits the T3 and T4 turbine housings. They suggest their T3 super 60 turbo for a street application (72mm - .48 A/R housing). They don't currently make kits, so this would be a custom system. They are considering making kits in the near future do to demand. If we have enough 3rd gen people interested in the same system we might be able to get them interested enough to produce a kit in the near future. Has anyone else contacted RX-7.com to inquire about the turbo they installed on the Protege 5 shown at a Texas auto show?

I did
 

Here's the reply.

"So far the Protege was a one off for Mazda USA. We are looking into trying to make a kit for the masses eventually. However, at this time, we are still working on perfecting the turbo that is on the car now. If there is anything else, let me know.

Thank you,
Rocky"

Let's give them some numbers. How many people are really interested in a turbo kit? Maybe if we give them something specific, they'll make it.

If they can make one for the 1.6 i am all over it

Actually, It seemed like the aftermarket was starting to notice the 3rd gen Protege before the MP3 and Protege 5 came out. I think it had a lot to do with the increased sales of the 3rd gen, especially with the 1.8L engine. There were parts becoming available for these cars before the MP3 and Protege 5, but I do agree that the MP3/Protege 5, and all the additional press they're getting, will certainly help things along quite a bit faster. I've only seen a few instances of parts being directed specifically at the MP3/Protege 5 as opposed to the 3rd gen or specific engine displacement in general. That's probably a good thing since the cars are so similar most parts should interchange just fine. So only the uneducated/uniformed manufacturer should be targeting the MP3/Protege 5 only.

So hang on, does the Ford Laser have the same engine as the Protege then or???