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macdaddyslomo May-10th-2002 12:05 PM

electric supercharger
 
has anyone checked out this or installed it on their pro...i was interested as it seems like a good investment if it works how they claimwww.electricsupercharger.com ..dont know if i put that link in right but its www.electricsupercharger.com...let me know what you think:yumyum:

Sir Nuke May-10th-2002 12:11 PM

what the hell good is it if you ONLY get boost at WOT.....jus how often are you REALLY running at WOT?

seems to me like a good way to piss away $300

azrakain May-10th-2002 03:47 PM

1 atmospehere is 14.7 PSI if I remember correctly? Am I right?

Sir Nuke May-10th-2002 04:47 PM


Originally posted by azrakain
1 atmospehere is 14.7 PSI if I remember correctly? Am I right?
technically this is 100% CORRECT. :{D

and the ONLY performance this thing will INCREASE is the bank account of the people selling them!

Traveler May-10th-2002 11:47 PM

The website is only claiming that it will make a 1 psi difference in air box pressure. What they say is, since the typical airbox runs at about 1/2 psi less than outside air pressure (due to there always being a slight restriction since there has to be an air filter) that they can provide a 1 psi increase in intake air pressure and bump the air pressure in the inlet up to 1/2 psi over outside air pressure. This is completely possible if they put enough juice to it. Hell, you could run a Vortech blower with an electric motor if you could put the juice to it.

They say that the fan spins at 22,000 RPM. No problem. They say it provides positive air pressure. That's the thing I have a problem with. As long as the air pressure is stacking up in the intake, then it will bleed back through the blades. When you throw in the fact that the engine is trying to suck air in and won't be pushing air against the blades, then it might provide a small gain. I'd have to see it on a dyno myself before I'd be convinced.

azrakain May-11th-2002 02:44 PM

atmospehere is a reading of pressure and about every 30-33 ft. you go vertically, the pressure increases by 14.7 PSI. The things you learn when you scuba dive......

Bruce95fmla May-12th-2002 09:37 AM

don't bother , save your money for the real supercharger
Bruce

Sir Nuke May-15th-2002 02:21 PM


Originally posted by azrakain
atmospehere is a reading of pressure and about every 30-33 ft. you go vertically, the pressure increases by 14.7 PSI. The things you learn when you scuba dive......

he he he..... 33.908 feet to be exact! :{D

:D

azrakain May-17th-2002 11:32 AM

10 meters basically. you dive Nuke?

Ben_D May-17th-2002 11:58 AM

also you should see the current draw on one of these bad boys 30 amps so you would actually loose horespower from your alternator struggling to keep up :)

macdaddyslomo May-17th-2002 03:07 PM

well,couple of comments...first of all the draw is coming off the battery and only at WOT....I seriously doubt this would hamper the engine or youy guys with major systems better power down your radio when you race.....also if the fan does actually produce 1 psi of boost to the intake,then why wouldnt it work...its not like it boasts major gains, maybe 5-6 hp on a 100-130 hp engine...and has dyno results to prove it...wouldnt this be false advertising if the dyno's are faked???...I'm not planning on buying it on this point considering I can get a zex system for $200 more...but keep in mind you guys are buying intake systems for $250 from injen...why would this be such a horrible investment,considering it incorporates a cone filter setup anyway

jblon78 May-17th-2002 06:17 PM

well here is the deal. you asked for opinions and everyone gave you their opinions on this thing. if you have $300 laying around and you feel strongly on this thing then go ahead and buy it. just remember that it is a fan and is not capable of pressurizing your intake. a fan only moves air while a turbo/sc actually pressurizes air. inside a supercharger/turbo it actually pressurizes the air before "throwing" it into the intake. this is how they develop positive pressure in the intake. my second point is the current draw it will put on your alternator. while it may only be used at wot this will be pulling juice from your ignition system and everywhere else thus resulting in lost horsepower. look at it this way if the thing doesnt work they have a moneyback guarantee on it.:rolleyes: all you have to do is spend a 300 bux on the dyno and pay the shipping back and they will reimburse you 1/2 the dyno run (50bux max) and then maybe decide if they want to give you your money back. and you have a whopping 30 days to do it all in. of course this is all my own opinion and i hope i didnt offend anyone but i just feel this is ridiculous and really far fetched. well good luck with your decision anyway.

macdaddyslomo May-18th-2002 12:51 AM

geez you guys are harsh..i guess in the future i guess i should ask for an educated opinion rather than will it work or not...cuz no one has really explained why...just "it doesnt work"..why,because you said so?? why will a turbo pressurize air but a fan wont...isnt a turbo just a glorified fan spinning off exhaust gasses...all anyone can say is.."well an electric fan cant do it." WHY?...I'll be more precise with futher questions..also read the post before you respond....i said i wouldnt get it,I just wanted a reason WHY it doesnt work...and I guess being an intelligent person doesnt allow me to accept "it just doesnt"

jblon78 May-18th-2002 10:24 AM

most turbos dont even begin to work around 20thousand rpm and can reach speeds well over a 100thousand rpm before hitting peak boost. if you think that our answers are uneducated then you need to look up how a turbo/sc works because you obviously dont understand it. i put it in the easiest terms i could and dont feel like writing another book about it. if you were so intelligent you would have not needed to ask the question you did.

craigrrrp May-18th-2002 10:25 AM

man i cant believe this is still a topic of discusion.....


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