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AcoupDetat November-26th-2002 11:24 AM

Turbo P5 Vs. Mazdaspeed
 
Who do you think would win?


Pro 5 with FM Protege Turbo Charger 6 PSI Boost

Or

Mazdaspeed Protege with the 6 PSI Boost



http://autos.yahoo.com/compare/compa...2protege5sport

funkdaddysmack November-26th-2002 11:39 AM

Re: Turbo P5 Vs. Mazdaspeed
 

Originally posted by AcoupDetat
Who do you think would win?


Pro 5 with FM Protege Turbo Charger 6 PSI Boost

Or

Mazdaspeed Protege with the 6 PSI Boost



http://autos.yahoo.com/compare/compa...2protege5sport

It would be very close. They make very similar HP numbers at the appropriate boost levels. Me, I'd rather have the turbo P5. It would be a bit more custom, lower insurance rates, and I believe the BEGI kit is a better starting point than the factory turbo setup on the MSP. To answer your question, it would be a driver's race.

leungwingkei November-26th-2002 12:21 PM

The MSP may have a slight advanatge in terms of traction due to its grippier tires and LSD. For me, I would also prefer a BEGI turbo P5, since I like the color better, looks more restrained, and has better weight distribution.

JasonH November-26th-2002 01:44 PM

Re: Re: Re: Turbo P5 Vs. Mazdaspeed
 

Originally posted by TheMAN
:rolleyes: Uh huh... did you know one car's power was measured at the wheels? Guess which one?

Uh, both if we compare the FM dyno numbers with the Mazdaspeed Protege dyno numbers from SCC. They are virtually identical on horsepower but the FM turbo has a 20+ lb/ft advantage in torque.

The Mazdaspeed Protege would win if there were any turns involved. Straight line? It FM turbo'd P5 should win but not by much.

funkdaddysmack November-26th-2002 02:39 PM

Re: Re: Re: Turbo P5 Vs. Mazdaspeed
 

Originally posted by TheMAN
:rolleyes: Uh huh... did you know one car's power was measured at the wheels? Guess which one?


http://www.flyinmiata.com/protege/tech/dyno.asp

^^^ That's a 2.25" Thermal exhaust smart guy. (167.5whp/191.5tq)

http://www.flyinmiata.com/protege/te...FM_P5_6psi.pdf

^^^ With stock exhaust (149whp/173.1tq)

The MSP dynos right around 150whp +/-...

AcoupDetat didn't mention the larger exhaust, so:

http://www.cr.nps.gov/seac/chpi/spoon%20.jpg

Here's a spoon so you can eat my ass.

funkdaddysmack November-26th-2002 02:48 PM

p.s. The jerkstore called, they're out of YOU! :D

Orange Crush November-26th-2002 03:35 PM

I seriously doubt that 20ft/lbs of torque is gonna save the turbo P5 from the limited slip on the MSP. For anyone who has ever driven a FWD car with a decent amount of HP and an open diff, you know what I am talking about. Given, its close enough that a little driver error could throw it off, but I'd put my money on the MSP and its LSD.

JasonH November-26th-2002 03:43 PM


Originally posted by funkdaddysmack
p.s. The jerkstore called, they're out of YOU! :D
LOL. Love the spoon.

funkdaddysmack November-26th-2002 09:19 PM


Originally posted by Orange Crush
I seriously doubt that 20ft/lbs of torque is gonna save the turbo P5 from the limited slip on the MSP. For anyone who has ever driven a FWD car with a decent amount of HP and an open diff, you know what I am talking about. Given, its close enough that a little driver error could throw it off, but I'd put my money on the MSP and its LSD.
Well, I'm just saying that it would be very close. ESPECIALLY with the torque advantage. Braden is running 13.8s with his open dif, granted he is getting wheel spin off the line. I dunno, it would just be close :)

Jason - glad you enjoyed the spoon :D

redrims November-26th-2002 10:28 PM

Would definitely bet money on a P5 turbo over the MSP.

kc5zom November-26th-2002 11:05 PM

Too close to call. If the MSP really has 150WHP and a good sum of torque it would probably take the turbo P5 in the drag, but it would be very dependent on the driver. But if the P5 has a stock, or close to stock, suspension it will get its ass handed to it in the twisties. I would rather have the MSP and get the whole warranty package, an LSD, and not have to spend money above and beyond the 3k or so required to purchase the FM turbo to make it decent.

redrims November-26th-2002 11:42 PM


Originally posted by kc5zom
Too close to call. If the MSP really has 150WHP and a good sum of torque it would probably take the turbo P5 in the drag, but it would be very dependent on the driver. But if the P5 has a stock, or close to stock, suspension it will get its ass handed to it in the twisties. I would rather have the MSP and get the whole warranty package, an LSD, and not have to spend money above and beyond the 3k or so required to purchase the FM turbo to make it decent.
The P5 turbo has more hp at the wheel. I think the P5 can take it in the drag and of course the MSP can take the P5 at the Autocross.

AcoupDetat November-27th-2002 02:33 AM

Thanks a lot guys... not your making me think about trading my P5 in for the mazdaspeed.......

StuttersC November-27th-2002 03:06 AM

The FM Protege 5 will win a drag. It makes more torque and horsepower than the MSP...

And the FM Protege 5 now has Ground Control coil-overs and adjustable camber plates. So, it'll give the MSP a run for it's money in the corners now too. Not to mention, it still all cost less than the MSP.

StuttersC November-27th-2002 04:27 AM


Originally posted by TheMAN
seems to me nobody ever talked about the weight.... :rolleyes:

According to Mazda USA, Protege 5 M/T weighs in at 2716 lbs., A/T at 2749 lbs. ...

The Mazdaspeed Protege weighs in at a hefty 2843 lbs (damn stereo).


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