Tranny Recall Petition!!!
 

I feel it is neccesary to start a petition regarding the transmission in the 3rd gen protege's....particulary the MP3 tranny, but I have heard other pro owners complain as well.
Does anyone else feel this way?

What's wrong with it? I practically bag the shit out of my transmission, and although I only have 9000 KM on the car, it still feels like new.

huh? my trany is fine as well...what brought this on?

mp3-owner, i'm sure nitrous probably voids all drivetrain and powertrain warranties.. and if i remember correctly.. you were spraying for a bit. so you'd be sol anyway. :(

well as auto. trannys



i already went through one and this one is kept slipping in to overdrive and only have two gears 1st and 2

Don't take this the wrong way but, this post is for people who have had problems, NOT the people who haven't.

Thanks

P.S.
I feel that my tranny failure caused the timing belt to jump a tooth and therefore causing my piston to be just below top dead center when the spark ignited, causing the damage to my motor. I had not used anything on my car for a good FOUR months prior to this happening.

The funny thing for me is that My Dealer claimed "ABUSE" on my car and YET they fixed the TRANNY!!!! Don't you think the "ABUSE" would apply to the tranny more than anything else?So you tell me they don't know something is seriously wrong with their shit!

A recall is appropriate when lots of cars are affected; if most people report no trouble, then a recall isn't warranted. Thus, lots of people chiming in saying they haven't had any trouble *IS* relevant to whether or not there should be a recall, whether you like it or not.

(I'm not saying you don't have a defective tranny--you very well might. But one defective tranny does not justify a recall.)

i got a 2000 dx with auto tranny and mine makes a grinding noise when it warms up at a certain throttle. sounds like the tranny fluid is getting to hot. i havent took it to the dealership because i havent had the time. plus i think they are going to be a asshole about ti and say that the lowering springs caused it. but i have had this problem since 12,000 miles, and i have 43,000 now. any other owners hearing some weird shit happening with there auto trannys

Hmm...One tranny...I know more than one person who has had problems, I'm sure there are quite a few on this board. If you goto www.protegemp3.com and search for this same thread you can see some more.
But anyway you make some good points and thank you for that post.

That is true, it would definitely help if people could post whether or not they've had tranny failures. With anything that is manufactured, you will always have some units that are defective.

Mine has been good, knock on wood, but then it should be, the car only has 1,600 kms on it.

LOL!!:D

There is a good reason that you are TheMAN!

I like his style. To the point. But seriously. I have NEVER seen a timing belt failure related to the transmission. It may have contributed to it but not cause it. I'd guess that the timing belt tensioner may have been failing already and your constant bagging on the motor just helped the inevitible.

Recall could only happen in one way.

Mathematicians at Mazda, who get paid millions just for this, will weigh the options:

How much would it cost to fix the problems under warranty(including lawsuits over the problems) for those who come in and complain.

AGAINST

How much would it cost fix every single tranny brough back under a recall.

Sad to say man, it will NEVER happen. I've seen cases go down where it was a safety issue. They figured it would cost more to do the recall on a defective seatbelt, than to deal with repairing each one and dealing with wrongful death lawsuits.

Sad world isn't it?

I'll have to agree with Ambient also. If anything happens it will probably be an internal TSB issued with corrective action and possibly improved parts to be used ONLY in the event of a failure.

This thread has nothing to do with performance or modification; it belongs in the discussion forum.

Hmm...So if the tranny was to slip out of gear while acclerating and cause the engine to redline...you do not believe that it might cause the timing belt to slip? Hmm...it sounds fairly reasonable to 3 mechanics I have spoken with.
:rolleyes:
But who cares because PseudoRealityX knows all right? :wackit:

Ignorant!, Ignorant!, Ignorant!
Maybe if you knew me or the situation fully then it wouldn't be, but since you don't know me or the situation at all, IT IS!
Seeing as how I make a living driving a "FRIGGIN" stick, as you put it, I feel very capable driving a stick, as a matter of fact I am driving a van right now with a three on the tree and guess what...no problems at all.
But you go on and think what you want, but please try and not make such ignorant comments in the future, for the sake of others.

Well it wasn't because of bad gas unless the guy at Murphy USA put the wrong gas in the 93 octane tank. I have always used 93 since day one.
I figure it was the advanced timing but not sure. All I know is I was in the middle of shifting from first to second when the car hit around 8,000 rpm and then the car started sputtering until it finally died and would not start after that. It would crank but it would not turn over.

But their are others that ARE having problems, not just me.
And what about my Mazda Rep. claiming I abused the car and not covering the engine under warrenty BUT he did cover the tranny, which was totally screwed? That doesn't sound fishy to anyone else? I mean come on, why wouldn't they let the abuse claim cover the tranny as well? You don't think they know they are having problems with this tranny?

That's another thing...The rev limiter didn't ever stop the rpm's from reaching 8,000. Isn't the rev limiter set to 6,500 or something? Hmm...maybe a faulty rev limiter.

And how in the HELL do you suggest I used any nitrous when I had the bottle CLOSED! As a matter of fact the damn thing was EMPTY! I had opened the bottle a weak prior to all of this so when I parked my car in the 90 degree heat here in florida it wouldn't Explode ,sorry it just seemed to fit. :rolleyes:

So whatever, I am getting my car fixed by someone else then the dealership because they want to charge me 5grand for a block and head so I told them to go sit on it!

I am trying to get something going for everyone out there that has not ran nitrous on their cars and are still having problems with the tranny's. It's too late for me but maybe some ofthe other pro owners out there can benefit from something like this.

The nitrous might have weakend my motor, most likely it did, but like I said what about the rest of pro owners who haven't used anything that are having problems with their tranny's bushings, synchro's, forks?
Check out this thread, if the site is not down... http://forum.protegemp3.com/vbb225/s...7&goto=newpost

Cry me a river

You messed up your own engine, deal with it.

Be a man a take responsibility for doing it.

FYI, Like I said...

The site IS up now. :nod: :dunce:

DUDE! :wtf: are you talking about!!! You FREAKING MORON!!
Do you not read the post before you respond?????

What did I say?

Uh...DUH! :withstupi

So why don't you go and :fu: yourself!!!


HAHA! I feel like a moderator now. No hard feelings dude but c'mon man, my car is in the hands of a very good mechanic as we speak getting fixed. Which means I am dealing with it and there is no crying anyone a damn river. However I have noticed that many other pro owners have had problems with their tranny's as well. So I thought I would ask around and see just how many people were having problems, but everyone on this board must be perfect drivers because no one wants to speak up, either that or everyone is too affraid to speak for the fear of being bashed.

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Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
can you please explain to me how a tranny thats been in MORE POWERFUL cars for 10 years has now suddenly become a piece of junk that requires a recall? I just dont get it.
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First of all tell me something, which of these so called "MORE POWERFUL" cars has this tranny been in? Just how much MORE POWER are we talking.
It has already been leaked that "the reason for the Mazdaspeed Protege's rather conservative 170hp rating is the tranny. Apparently, our trannies can't take a huge amount of power", I would assume that this is with Professional drivers on Mazda's payrole.
I would like to know how Roger Foo, or any of the racers for that matter, have modified thier tranny's or if it was even needed with this super strong tranny.