these guys have everything
 

http://www.corksport.com

little pricy but a good line up

If you can find it anywhere else, it'll be cheaper than Corksport...

that should be their moto..... :bt:

any other good ones out there

that a great moto. it's flows very nicely. somebody should suggest that to them. it's very catchy

Cork Sport kind of sucks. I've asked for dyno sheets and other info in the past, and received really condescending answers such as "there is no mystery that such and such makes more power" rather than a response as to how much of a gain one could expect from bolting on one of their parts. I asked about timing/ duration of the cams they sell and was told that was "confidential". Look in any Mustang 5.0L magazine, and all of that stuff is published. Seems most hot rodders want to know what they are getting, rather than blowing hundreds of dollars and taking someone's word for it. The other thing is, ever see how inflated the unsubstantiated hp gains seem on Cork Sport's website? Of course there are no dyno sheets to prove any of it...

Shane Racing also sucks. They never responded to my e-mails when I wrote to them to ask about their cams. My question was simple, really - how much of a gain could I get with the Mazdaspeed cams, and were lighter retainers/ different springs required. Simple enough, huh?

On the other hand, Wagner has been quick to answer my questions, and encourages a phone call to discuss their products in more detail. E-Bay, Summit, Nopi, and a local (Ferndale, MI) Mazda dealer also have all been great about providing good service and telling me about whatever parts I was buying.

Just because there aren't a lot of aftermarket sources for our cars, doesn't mean we all have to be suckers.

Corksport supports the Protege community like no other vendor. I just paid 165 bucks to drive on Laguna Seca all day with classroom time with pro instructors, lunch and t-shirts included. Guess who sponsered the event?
They may charge a little more, but at least we know where our money is going. :) Right back into the Protege loop.

Sorry, in my little rant about Cork Sport I meant to say "lift and duration" rather than "timing and duration". Had to correct myself, lest you guys think I'm an incompetent boob.

i personally have no problems with corksport, i've ordered a few parts from them for my PGT and they have always been shipped much faster than i expected, and i've always found their prices decently reasonable (for the probe parts at least)... and the parts i've ordered from them have been most beneficial, so all in all i'm happy with the service they are providing (i remember WAY back when, when they didnt have that many parts to sell, now they are growing and i think its great)... whenever i get my msp i'm confident that i'll get the corksport CAI, and a couple other things off their site, most of the other generic stuff (boost controller, such and such) i'll get elsewhere because i'm sure summit will have better prices...

Of course you're not going to have problems with their service if all you've done is order a few parts. I didn't see any replies about people having trouble with shipping or anything like that. People are all supler nice when they know you're spending money...take car salesmen for example....if you buy a car from them, they'll ask you out for beers....however, the problem people have with corksport (which I've experienced) is they are not very willing to answer questions about their products or produce documentation to support their claims. They just respond with "It works, trust me, now give us your money..."

compared to other places they are way over priced, but they do offer more

My sentiments exactly!!!

corksport has recently lowered quite a few of their prices and has made leaps and bounds in their customer service dept.....I've dealt with them and was impressed with their customer service

Yeah, but I challenge you to try and get a dyno sheet out of them for their cams, headers, or anything else that they sell. A lot of shops don't have access to a dyno, and that's ok. But if they can't prove a horsepower gain, they shouldn't state it in their advertising.

i think i will email them and see if i can get any answers out of them, i've never really had any problems with there service even when i hadnt bought anything, and i've never heard any rant about corksport, i've only ever heard praise, hrm, i guess i'll find out...

If you don't mind doing a favor...
See if you can get a dyno sheet for their Mazdaspeed FS intake cam, along with lift/ duration, and whether or not lightened retainers/ stronger springs are required to prevent valve float at high rpm.

you do not need valve springs or ret if you are going with the mazdaspeed cams , i have installed 3 or 4 on guys cars and not one has had any trouble as for dyno #'s i would say 7-9hp to the wheels with them

ya no problem, it was taking me a lil longer to get that email off because i didnt want to go on their site and figure out what i wanted to ask the question about to begin with haha...

Well, I take it no response from Cork Sport still. I think we should change the subject in this thread from "These guys have everything" to "These guys will sell you anything".

Got five hundred bucks laying around for a Auto EXE throttle body? How about nine hundred for a header? Oh, and by they way, they say it'll make your car faster (though nobody can prove it).

ya i haven't gotten a response back yet, interesting, i've never had any troubles with them before... the only difference was that i was buying parts for my probe, not a protege, but i dont see that being a factor in whether or not they give quick/informative responses...

i just wanted to follow this up again, i was looking on corksport again (just getting ideas) and noticed that a couple of their products DO include links to dyno plots now, just FYI...

oh man, my asshole started bleeding when i read $500+ for a freaking throttle body!!! dear god!!! LMAO!

I bought a whole intake manifold and 65mm TB for my pinto for $300+shipping!! Mazda's aren't cheap to mod (well)

You're right, Mazdas are not cheap to mod. But five hundred bucks for a TB is highway robbery. I've seen them on E-bay recently for less than two hundred a pop. Provided it's somebody's project, and I have no idea how good or bad the workmanship is, but if I was going to do a TB I would take the chance on the E-bay unit first before dropping half a grand on the Auto EXE unit.

What's more, from what I have seen and heard lately for other cars, changing the TB will not net you ANY gain as long as there are other restrictions in the intake. It might feel slightly faster due to the more sudden tip-in from a wider throttle opening, but actual flow won't be much better than stock unless the intake manifold and MAF are opened up.

That's why it would be nice to see hard data from Cork Sport. They claim that a larger TB will net more hp, but there aren't any numbers to support it.

generally, a larger throttle body does very little to up horsepower on relatively stock engines. they do, however, greatly increase throttle response. but man, they want an arm, leg and a large portion of my lower gall bladder for half the shit on that site.

true, but look at it from their standpoint, corksport is not some huge corporation, afaik they are a small company more than likely run out of a small shop or garage somewhere... they probably dont sell as many products as they'd like, and to be honest development and production of peices like this DOES cost them money, and then they need to make a certain amount of money off of each product, and if the product is of a higher calibur than say an ebay product, it more than likely costs more money to develop... i have never received anything from them that was even close to sub-standard, all parts have been top notch, and personally i enjoy throwing the little guy some money as opposed to another company... and its not fair to compare their prices to prices being given for completely different cars, because mazda's ARE one of the more expensive cars to modify, if for any other reason than lack of an aftermarket...

an example i'd use for this situation is PRD (probesport racing development), they sell many products that you can get off of ebay as well for cheaper, but the PRD parts are a lot higher quality and just generally nicer, so i'd rather give the money to them than some random vendor doing business over ebay with whole-sale items :shrug:...

i dunno, i can understand the complaints about lack of information (which they have started putting dyno sheets with some of their products, which i mentioned above), but i dont really see anything terribly wrong with their prices, high prices run hand-in-hand with cars that have small aftermarkets, if you wanna spend 100 bucks and get a shit load of mods go buy a honda and shop at autozone, otherwise start shellin out the cash :p...

I don't agree that a ton of money needs to be spent on these cars. Nine hundred bucks for a header? Five hundred for a TB? But hey, if you see it like some kind of charity, then go for it. If you suggest that I spend a ton of bucks too, then convince me that Cork Sport's nine hundred dollar header is better than a Forza/OBX or a Wagner. And, try to do it without a dyno sheet.

no not saying that at all, but OBX is quite a big company, bringing in A LOT of money, with people on hand every day to design new products, so it costs them virtually nothing to develop parts like that, so they can sell them for cheaper, and quite possibly at better quality/more gains...

i guess my main point was that for a small business (like corksport, PRD, rr-racing...) high prices are not that uncommon... dyno sheets SHOULD be provided if they are going to claim a gain in HP, i do agree with you on that for sure, if your going to say your part does "this", then have some kind of prove that it actually does...

and the other thing is the dyno plot for the car they test it on might be different than your car (every car is different, factory freaks, lemons...), their car might have mods X,Y,Z, which enhance the header better, where your car has mods A,B,C, which may hinder the performance of the header... so for a smaller company that doesn't have a dyno on hand it is harder to keep going back and paying an arm and a leg for dyno time to test each individual part...

i dont want to turn this into a fight or anything, because i do agree with you for the most part, claims in performance need to be backed up, all im saying is cut these guys some slack, personally knowing the guy who runs PRD gave me a totally different veiw of a lot of these internet vendors, most of them are just guys that build parts in their garage, no customer service dept, no performance shop and so on, so i tend to try and not be to critical of some things when it comes to them...

Small companies make their living on word of mouth advertising (satisfied customers) and their reputation amongst its customer base (high % comeback customers). Larger companies make their business by giving discounts, fast shipping, and commercial advertising. Customer service at a larger company is most always less personal due to the nature of their business, selling bulk cheap and hiring as few extra hands as possible to make these prices feasible. The problem I see here is that cork sport is, yes, a smaller company and thus will have higher prices. However, they don't make up for this with their customer service. In certain circumstances, I'd rather pay the extra cash knowing that I will have a better buying experience and more customer support. Sometimes with the smaller companies you can even build a personal relationship with one representative who knows you by name and has a repor with you, but from what I gather, I'm not the only one who's had customer support issues with this company. That tells me they don't have the advantages of pricing from a larger company, and don't have the advantages of good support as a small company. So I ask, why would I ever want to shop with them when I can get equal levels of support and lower prices, or better support for the same price.

if you think, for any reason, that $540 for a throttle body is reasonable... or that $500 for a carbon fiber air funnel is reasonable... or $900 for a tubular header is reasonable...

well hell, apparently anything from AUTO EXE is out of this world. if i buy a throttle body, they better ship a fresh rock of crack cocaine and a tube of astro-glide as gifts!!!!

$34 for a muthafuckin' T-shirt! jesus!

DonSVO - amen, brother.

And, just because a shop is big, doesn't mean customer service is going to go down the toilet. I mean, I have had nothing but pleasant experiences buying stuff from Summit.

I did not have any problems with corksport, they offer GT-SPEC parts at a good price and a nice addition to any car.

going from a 55mm throttle body to a 60mm throttle body for $540 is NOT A GOOD PRICE. i would shit donut-shaped turds for a week after that ass-raping.

who else makes bored throttle body's for the protege? and how much do they cost? IF anyone else even DOES make the TB, i'm sure it will be cheaper, but the quality might not be as good, the biggest complaint i read of when it comes to TB is the throttle plate not seating correctly because it was installed improperly, or because the bore was done incorrectly, and that fucks up the idle, now for that price i would expect (and i haven't heard otherwise, just complaints about pricing) that their TB would be of the upmost quality, and work flawlessly the first time around, personally i'd be willing to pay the extra money for a GOOD part that i wouldn't have to ship back 3 times before i finally get one that is acceptable, you might feel differently, nothing wrong with that just different views on the subject...


i'm not arguing that their prices are high, but in my MANY personal transactions with them i have recieved my purchase a day or 2 after i mail the order out (THAT is customer service) and i have NEVER had to even think about sending something back, and the parts i bought from them still work flawlessly to this day... personally i have never had a problem with them answering my questions, obviously you guys have, maybe you are coming accross as jerks to them (judging by yor attitude towards them in this thread it would not suprise me if a little bit of attitude was thrown into any emails sent to them regarding parts :shrug: ) and they dont want to deal with that, this isn't a huge business that will fire their employee's for not being polite to each customer, these are guys, building parts in their garage, who MORE than likely have another job to support themselves, so selling parts on their online business is not that big of a concern to them, so putting up with people bitching at them all the time is not high on their priority list, just an idea of why your questions may be going un-answered, but who knows, all i know is that every email i send them i am more than polite and i've always gotten a response (with the exception of this last email, which i'm sure they brushed aside considering they seem to get a lot of those haha)


if you want an example of REALLY bad customer service, try having the OWNER of one of these small business' tell you that you are STUPID for asking about strength and testing of a product... you guys complain about these guys just not answering your questions, when i asked the owner of precision motorsports (aka neonman) if he had done any testing on some suspension/undercarraige parts that he was producing, the answer i got was "this is a tubular design, its OBVIOUSLY stronger than the stock peices, are you stupid or something?", how is THAT for customer relations haha, this to me shows the opposite end of the spectrum further proving my point that most of these guys obviously dont care if everyone is happy with their business, this guy has a job outside of PMO, so me buying his tubular control arms was of no consequence to him, he'd rather try and humiliate me (which didn't work, because many members told him that testing WAS nessecary on a part as crutial as a control arm, and that i had a point that he should do so) in front of the entire forum...

like i said before, just take into consideration that this is a small business (smaller than the mom and pop hardware store on the corner), and they operate differently than big business', which is what most people are used to at this point...