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Caretaker August-19th-2003 04:25 AM

Sport20 Tuned-up 0-400, 0-60MPH data
 
I was looking for some performance data for my Sport20 after someone asked me in another thread and found the following for the Autoexe tuned up version automatic. It is almost identical to what I have except it has a better exhaust manifold delivering 6-7 more HP. The rest is identical (Autoexe Muffler, K&N intake, Yokohama DNA GP tires) except for the manual transmission in my case.

That Sport20 car delivers 187 HP and can do 1/4 mile (0-400m) in 16.5 seconds. It also does 0-60 mph in 8.7 seconds.

So you can use these numbers to compare your cars.

Here is the pic of this Sport20:

http://www.rakuten.co.jp/gorilla/img1016335322.jpeg

pluto316 August-19th-2003 09:44 AM

Yeah, it has some nice HP numbers for a N/A engine, but 16 seconds is NOT a fast 1/4 mile time. I'll stick with my MSP thanks.



Also: I like the north american front bumper more, it's more clean in my opinion.

Caretaker August-19th-2003 11:17 AM


Originally posted by pluto316
Yeah, it has some nice HP numbers for a N/A engine, but 16 seconds is NOT a fast 1/4 mile time. I'll stick with my MSP thanks.

Can you share with us your 1/4 and 0-60 MSP times?

I think the MSP has like 21 Kg.m of torque vs 18.8 for the stock Sport-20. A WRX STI has 35 to give u an idea.

So it is clear it can accelerate faster probably. Did you try to bring it over 210 km/h? How was the rev meter at that speed?

For 1/4 miles comparison:

Toyota Supra Twin Turbo: 13.8 seconds
Nissan Skyline GT-R: 13.7 sec
Honda NSX : 13.5 sec
Honda S2000: 14.0 sec

The S2000 takes the cake maybe as it has a 4 cylinders engine vs V6 for the others.

UPSman August-19th-2003 08:11 PM

I agree that 16.5 secs in the 1/4 isnt that impressive.
I think that I can better that. We will see in a week or 2.

Caretaker August-19th-2003 09:24 PM

I will take my Sport20 to the track also next month. I decided to take driving lessons at the Tsukuba Circuit not far from Tokyo. It is cool since it is a real circuit and we can run against the clock with our own car. The circuit has a lot of curves, so the Sport20 AWD should handle it well. In the top 10, there were no GTR or Supra, but a lot of HondaS2000. A CRX took the 21st spot while a Porsche 911 got the best time. so lighter cars have the edge in that circuit.

I will post a video for you guys ;-)

Caretaker August-20th-2003 05:23 AM


Originally posted by UPSman
I agree that 16.5 secs in the 1/4 isnt that impressive.
I think that I can better that. We will see in a week or 2.

Let's face it..if a Supra Twin Turbo does it in 13.8 sec..it would be a miracle to do it in 15, don't u think?

Phantom Cruiser August-20th-2003 11:18 AM

187hp and does 16.5? woo-hooo

lots of stock proteges run 16s, mine ran 16.8@81mph STOCK w/130hp to the flywheel:rolleyes:

pluto316 August-20th-2003 11:54 AM


Originally posted by Phantom Cruiser
187hp and does 16.5? woo-hooo

lots of stock proteges run 16s, mine ran 16.8@81mph STOCK w/130hp to the flywheel:rolleyes:


Yeah really. If you brought a 16s car to the local track around here you'd get your ass laughed off the track! I live in central Florida, people there drive 10 second GNXes as daily drivers, kid.

pluto316 August-20th-2003 12:16 PM


Originally posted by Caretaker


Can you share with us your 1/4 and 0-60 MSP times?

I think the MSP has like 21 Kg.m of torque vs 18.8 for the stock Sport-20. A WRX STI has 35 to give u an idea.

So it is clear it can accelerate faster probably. Did you try to bring it over 210 km/h? How was the rev meter at that speed?

For 1/4 miles comparison:

Toyota Supra Twin Turbo: 13.8 seconds
Nissan Skyline GT-R: 13.7 sec
Honda NSX : 13.5 sec
Honda S2000: 14.0 sec

The S2000 takes the cake maybe as it has a 4 cylinders engine vs V6 for the others.


I am getting these numbers from Sport Compact Car magazine which is ultra fair about numbers, I know some members can claim faster times, but these are averages;


Acceleration
0-30 mph: 2.8 sec.
0-60 mph: 7.6 sec.
30-50 mph: 2.9 sec
50-70 mph: 4.1 sec.
Quarter Mile time: 15.5 sec. @ 89.4 mph
Quarter Mile speed: 89.4 mph

Handling
Lateral Grip (200-ft. skidpad): 0.89g
Slalom Speed (700-ft. slalom): 70.3 mph

Braking
60-0 stopping distance: 123 ft. 113

Engine Code: FS
Type: Inline four, iron block, aluminum head, turbocharged and intercooled
Valvetrain: DOHC, four valves per cylinder
Displacement: 1991cc
Bore x Stroke: 83 x 92 mm
Compression Ratio: 9.1:1
Claimed Crank Hp: 170 hp @ 5500 rpm
Claimed Crank Torque: 155 lb-ft @ 4500 rpm
Measured Wheel Hp: 150 hp @ 6000 rpm
Measured Wheel Torque: 150 lb-ft @ 3700 rpm
Redline : 6500 rpm
Drivetrain: Transverse front-engine, front-wheel drive
Layout: Five-speed manual
The North American Proteges are speed limted to 120-125mph (depending on model and who you ask). The body it's self is limited to 130ish mph before it becomes drag limited and would need some serious hp to keep it going.

Here's the gear ratios to find the exact numbers:


Gear Ratios
1: 3.307:1
2: 1.842:1
3: 1.310:1
4: 0.970:1
5: 0.755:1
Final drive : 4.105:1
Differential: Conical ring torque-sensing limited slip
You can do the math here: http://davewin.com/tech/gear_ratios.shtml but it's not an exact science, really.

The final generation Skyline GT-Rs were heavy as hell and were slow on the track. Even the twin turboed I6 couldn't pull that massive drivetrain and body down the track very well stock. Modified, yes, then you have a nice drag car. The same goes for the Supra TT. While everyone pees their pants over a modded Supra (it has a very very nice engine, it can put up with serious abuse) the stock form wasn't all that shocking performance wise. The S2000 gets it's power from the insane compression, that's why the supercharged S2000s you see poping up are only running on like 5psi of boost.

That Sport20 you posted uses the automatic (AUTOTRAGIC) tranny off a standard P5. That's the big performance killer right there.




Honestly, remember in that other thread about you not getting the term "American Muscle"? You can kind of see it when you look at it this way; We get cars that run 14s stock every year that are no big deal while they are worshipped over in Japan for running 15s.

UPSman August-20th-2003 07:22 PM


Let's face it..if a Supra Twin Turbo does it in 13.8 sec..it would be a miracle to do it in 15, don't u think?
I don't think that running a 15 whether its a 15.0 or 15.9 in a N/A Protege would be a miracle. It would be "impressive/respectable" for a little 4 door with no turbo/nitrous/supercharger. Fast? no. Quick? yes

I will be goin to the track like I said, either this friday if it doesn't rain or the next. I WILL post the timeslips (unlike most ppl). Hopefully I can run a decent time.

Caretaker August-20th-2003 07:43 PM


Originally posted by UPSman


I don't think that running a 15 whether its a 15.0 or 15.9 in a N/A Protege would be a miracle. It would be "impressive/respectable" for a little 4 door with no turbo/nitrous/supercharger. Fast? no. Quick? yes

I will be goin to the track like I said, either this friday if it doesn't rain or the next. I WILL post the timeslips (unlike most ppl). Hopefully I can run a decent time.

Thanks for sharing this with us. I was able to dig some 0-400 data for a Mazda 323 GT-R, Turbo

http://www.ggon.net/cardata/gtr/gtr.htm

0-400: 14.4 sec
It has 25 kg.m of torque

the Sport20 has about 18.8 and the MSP 20.

So don`t be so dissapointed if you can break 15. We will be all happy of course if you do.


One thing I was thinking, is it possible that the fuel-air ratio is different between Japan and US? (10:1 instead of 12:1)?

pluto316 August-20th-2003 10:08 PM

The only thing that's impressive about the Sport20 in my eyes is the 4WD... Now if only I had that on my MSP..

shinzen September-17th-2003 12:04 AM

So, I had to...
 
http://buschurracing.com/biography3.html

I mean you wanna talk about quarter mile times, dsm with these guys is outta control- my old roomate was really into mitsu tuning- I love my 02 ES though- just more juice and good to go.
http://buschurracing.com/biography3.html

toucci September-17th-2003 08:00 PM


Originally posted by pluto316
The only thing that's impressive about the Sport20 in my eyes is the 4WD... Now if only I had that on my MSP..
actually a turbo'ed sport 20 awd would be better because you could put a stronger turbo system in from the start :D


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