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jaje August-23rd-2002 12:58 PM

Post Sale Customer Survey
 
I'm not sure what forum this goes in since there isn't a dealer forum.

I have a question about the survey Mazda mails to you about your buying experience. Our salesperson at brown's mazda in fairfax, va told us that any rating below 10 (out of 10) in any category reflects poorly on him...in fact if he gets below an average of 80 he has to pay a difference!

Now this is what gets me...on the survey it asks about the finance dept, condition of the store, the sale manager, and even the used car process. The salesperson insists that low scores count towards him.

Reason is it took us 4 hours to buy our car (with a toddler) after a lowball trade offer...the office was really dirty with peeling paint and torn carpet, the sales manager told me my trade was worthless and he wouldn't deal on the price of the car (it took us to actually walk to our car to get it for $500 less than msrp)...the finance dept was backed up for 2 hours (we waited for 2 freakin hours)...only to hear that there was a fight amongst the finance guys and one guy got fired...this was one of hte worst car buying experiences i've had even though the salesperson wasn't at fault (now my only way to give feedback will only hurt him...so i get it)

what i think is jd power does the dealership survey and ranks them based on the customer surveys the auto mfgrs themselves collect...i'm of the opinoin that this is a line to force customers to rank their experiences higher than they should be

i'm just curious if anyone else got the same story?

mts3 August-23rd-2002 01:03 PM

When I bought my P5 six weeks ago, they didn't even mention the survey to me.

Having said that, my buying experience was very pleasant, with the exception of the wait to do the paperwork (to their credit, I did buy late on a Sunday afternoon so the staff wasn't 100%). The dealership had excellent selection, was very clean, and the salesman was friendly.

I haven't submitted my survey yet but I intend to be fully honest regardless of what people will think about it.

NoahsMP5 August-23rd-2002 01:27 PM

Is it the JD power one or the dealership survey?

I really don't care about how they feel when I am filling out the survey, the survey is about how they made you feel while buying the car. On mine there was a space for additional comets, thats where you could assign blame if need be. Don't let them bully you into anything you don't feel comfortable with.:D

ZoomZoomH August-23rd-2002 01:38 PM

hmm, brown's fairfax Mazda eh? I work like 5 miles from them, and takes my car there for any maintenance/warranty work that needs to be done.

guess their sales department ain't much better than any other dealers out there :rolleyes:

but I have been lucky with their service department though. When I took my car in for the ignition coil recall, the service advisor just took my car in and did the work in 1/2 hour, even though I wasn't on his appointment list!

the bottom line, however, is for you to TRUTHFULLY fill out the survey of your buying experience. If it was bad, fill it out as so. Don't try to 'help' a salesperson by filling out ratings that they don't deserve.

JasonH August-23rd-2002 01:52 PM

Salesman get some money if they get all tens. Anything less and they get nothing.

kenp1972 August-23rd-2002 01:57 PM

They mentioned the survey to me. I still filled it out honestly and didn't give them very good scores. Then the salesman called me at work to bitch at me for the scores. I sent a letter to Mazda USA and I'm still waiting for a response.

JJB August-23rd-2002 03:00 PM

these two threads are well worth the read before sending anything back to them:

http://www.protegeclub.com/forum/sho...&threadid=9797
and
http://www.protegeclub.com/forum/sho...&threadid=8350

in more than one case filling that thing out has caused enough headaches that not sending it back might be the best thing to do!

Tom Slick August-23rd-2002 03:10 PM

i filled mine out honestly. what good is a survey if you don't? it took them 4 hrs to sell it to me then it wasn't detailed when i took delivery. i believe that the salesmen get bonuses for good ratings. i despise sales scum, i had nothing to loose.
i do have a great dealership though, the service department is very good.

SEA_P5 August-23rd-2002 03:25 PM

My Dealership experience was awsome and the financing dept. just as good. Took me less then 1 hour from bargaining to driving the car off the lot and I got them to go 500 bucks above invoice.

I believe that this is the time to get even if you did not get the best experience. If a sales agent has contacted you for a score that he should not know, I would contact the Sales Manager and tell him that his sales associates has been harrassing. If not contact the dealership owner.

Don't be nice or respectful if they are not pleasant to you. This is the number one thing that I notice when I see people complain. You are the person spending the money to buy a vehicle, not the seller.

Tell them to :fu:

if they cause any problems.

mopho August-23rd-2002 04:14 PM

DON'T DO IT!!!! IT IS NOT CONFIDENTIAL!!!!
I made the mistake and read what happened here
http://www.protegeclub.com/forum/sh...=&threadid=8350

Now I have to drive at least 45 minutes to a different dealer for service!

mopho August-23rd-2002 04:17 PM


Originally posted by kenp1972
They mentioned the survey to me. I still filled it out honestly and didn't give them very good scores. Then the salesman called me at work to bitch at me for the scores. I sent a letter to Mazda USA and I'm still waiting for a response.

I sent a letter to the owner and manager at the dealership, it seems they blew me off!

SpeedRacer August-23rd-2002 05:31 PM

When I filled mine out, I had the sales manager call me to ask me about it. I didn't give a very good score but I did answer honestly.
Greg

jaje August-23rd-2002 08:00 PM

well at least i'm not alone...so they do send the surveys back to the dealer...i wonder if mazda even looks at it...this is bad for a post sales survey

i've dealt with post sale surveys before and after my wife and i bought our civic we were called the next week by a honda rep (not working for the dealer)...they said this conversation was confidential and only the overall compliments/complaints would be shown to the dealer (in other words we would not be singled out)...leesburg honda in va did such a great job: whole process took less than an our, we got the car for $500 over invoice and they even beat our credit unions finance rate

that brown's mazda was fishy...we also have another mazda dealer here called rosenthal...this outfit was run by the mafia until recently and has several open investigations by the FTC over fraudulent advertising (bait & switch)...so brown's was the only dealer that wasn't in legal straights when we got our car

ZoomZoomH August-23rd-2002 08:10 PM


Originally posted by jaje
that brown's mazda was fishy...we also have another mazda dealer here called rosenthal...this outfit was run by the mafia until recently and has several open investigations by the FTC over fraudulent advertising (bait & switch)...so brown's was the only dealer that wasn't in legal straights when we got our car
wait, are you talking about Rosenthal Nissan Mazda down at Tysons Corner??? they were controlled by the Mafia????? I BOUGHT MY CAR FROM ROSENTHAL!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

atenza August-23rd-2002 08:41 PM

It is a survey send out from Mazda US or Mazda Canada after the car register. It is a very important to the headquarter to make sure customers are happy with their car. Everyone works in dealership scare a bad survey send back. Their pay plan is base on the score in the survey include sales managers, sales, even district manager from headquarter. It depends on the return ratio as well. So, dealerships encourage customers to send it back. End of the year, it has a draw for the customer to win a miata.


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