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angel_of_sorrow May-4th-2004 04:27 PM

p5-es
 
I just had a stupid idea but I was wondering which car do you think would win in a race a p5 or an es both bone stock just a stupid question and please lets not turn this into a pissing match or I will contact the admin. and have him lock this thread. I just want opinions in my aspect I think the es would win just b/c I think it is lighter but hey it's just my opinion.

Prote-J May-4th-2004 04:41 PM

Well... there is less than a hundred pounds difference.. so not like it would be a all out smokin the crap out of it type of race..... but the ES is lighter than a P5

Prote-J May-4th-2004 04:42 PM

Would then come down to drivers

isawyou May-5th-2004 06:17 PM

Doesn't the P5 have a stiffer body, with the inherent strength of its body shape and the strut tower bar up front? I was told that made the car stiffer and better handling, so in a twisty course, I'd expect the P5 to win.

Roddimus Prime May-5th-2004 06:35 PM

um.....I'll need to check again, but the P5 is 224lbs lighter than a MSP....not sure how much the turbo system and audio stuff weighs, but I can't imagine 224 lbs.

Prote-J May-5th-2004 06:48 PM

well.. I looked up the weight of my car on the web... and I've also weighed mine.. and it was about 15 lbs difference??? so.. I'd have to say where I found it is probably pretty accurate...

03ESPro May-5th-2004 07:20 PM


Originally posted by Roddimus Prime
um.....I'll need to check again, but the P5 is 224lbs lighter than a MSP....not sure how much the turbo system and audio stuff weighs, but I can't imagine 224 lbs.
If the P5 is already 100 lbs. heavier, wouldn't that make it 324 lbs? That doesn't make sense, I could see the MSP being 224 over the ES, between the turbo, IC, stereo, suspension and wheels.

macdaddyslomo May-5th-2004 07:41 PM

in order of weight from lightest to heaviest of all North American market 3rd genners

99-01 DX,99-01 LX,99-00 ES,02+ DX,02+ LX,01+ ES, 02+ P5,01 MP3,03+ MSP......

Slowest to Fastest

99-01 LX,99-01 DX,02+ P5,01+ ES,02+ LX, 02+DX, 99-00 ES, 01 MP3,03+ MSP

based on actual weights from Mazda and actual 0-60 times and 1/4 mile times

Prote-J May-6th-2004 01:07 PM

Thank you :)

macdaddyslomo May-6th-2004 01:55 PM

no prob. thats what im here for

Roddimus Prime May-6th-2004 01:56 PM

hmm, I wonder where my car falls!! I want some numbers dangit!!

macdaddyslomo May-6th-2004 02:06 PM

stock, or right now?

Roddimus Prime May-6th-2004 02:10 PM

well.....it's like 98% stock....ebay SRI, ms muffler, and an mp3 ecu.


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