Gov. chips
 

Do other countries have gov. installed safety chips to cut the engine off before it reaches peak speed. Just curious. Oh, and do you guys think a Crown Vic. police cruiser could reach 150 if it didn't have the chip? Later.

Yes, german cars are limited to 155mph.

Your protege, is not.

A police car definetaly doesn't have a speed limiter. Depending on the configuration, it's possible it can go 150, but probably won't. Some departments have Camaros though...

Re: Gov. chips
 

Most definitely. Almost all police cruisers come with superchargers and the like. You'll be hard pressed to outrun a police cruiser with a street legal car.

Most cruisers do not have superchargers and the like. In fact C&D (or motor trend) did a side by side test with a police interceptor CV and a stock CV, the stock was faster. The fastest thing about police cars is the radio, being able to call a chopper and some of the few specialized cruisers, ie camaro, mustang, etc. The other big thing that I've seen with cruisers is that the cooling systems are really beefed up. So they can cruise at high speeds for a long period of time. This is fairly advantages as most cars can't do that.

As for the governor chips, it kinda depends on the manufacturer. I've read that the european auto manufactures have a "gentleman's" agreement about 155mph for all their cars. The big Japanese motorcyle manufacturers limit there bikes to ?189mph I know ford has had some governors in some cars as well as other companies. Most are fairly easy to defeat.

Re: Re: Gov. chips
 

No they don't. They have some beefed up cooling systems with external oil and tranny coolers, silicon hoses, heavier fan clutches(for those w/o electric fans) heavier duty shocks, larger rear sway bars, better exhaust, and the police speedometer.

The amusing thing is that the sport model of the crown vic IS faster in the 1/4 and could outhandle the PI. I remember that article in MT. Most cars are limited by power and aerodynamics.

In Maryland the State Trooper Caprice's used to have governors. My nextdoor neighbor was a cop and I remember him complaining about how the EFI was set to cut off at a certain speed. I'm not sure if that is still the case though.

Not to mention all the shit they pile in them (guns, cages, computer) to add a wicked amount of weight to an already HEAVY car!!

Most European manufacturer's do not govern Europe market bound cars. Just NA bound ones. And high end sports cars usually do not carry a governor.

DOes anyone know how to remove the governor? Am I the only one here where they cant go past a 100?

my 1.8L is governed at 190kmph, about 120mph

icynelly i can easily get past 100mph

and i wanna try to remove the governor too... so if anyone knows... then i'll do that

How can my 1.6 go past a 100!!! PLease someone help me. i got the need for speed.

I thought that protege's didn't have governors, rather they were limited aerodynamically.
Sorry it seems that 1.8's have a governor. 2.0's don't. There is a rev limiter but theoretically if you can get enough hp you should be able to go as fast as you want (to a certain limit anyway)
That poor 1.6 just don't have enough juice to get more than what you're getting. I had a tempo with about the same amount of hp and more wieght and it topped out around 90 or so.:rolleyes:
(I want to say that the MSP has a governor but I'm unsure about this)

:firehair:
 

So its not my governor? Its just too damn slow to go past a 100? :( :( :( Why does my damn speedometer say 140:mad: :rant: :rant: :mach: :mach: :fu: :fu: :firehair:

I guess it's just the city I live in. :dunno: But I know for a fact that all police crown vics, and some Imapalas on our force have superchargers. The reason I'm so sure of this is that I personally know the mechanic who works on local government vehicles, he was an old buddy of my sister. And he's the one who installs the superchargers. Though we do have a reasonably small force, in a town of around 30,000. And since we don't have any specialized vehicles, i.e. Camaros, I guess they improve on all of the cruisers. I just assumed it was like this everywhere. My mistake.

I'd be very surprised if the Chevy Impala police cruisers around here couldn't get above 150 mph. In fact I heard they could go 180...

Police cars are overall slow as hell..

The old Caprices with the LT1s were very fast, they WOULD go 140 and do a 15 second quarter mile..

All the new police cars (stock) except for Camaro are almost exactly the same performance as their civilian counterparts.

Each year the Michigan State Police does a police car evaluation for all the police forces in the country to see as a benchmark..

the results are in this pdf file:

http://www.nlectc.org/pdffiles/msp2003bulletin.pdf

Page 4 in this pdf has the benchmarks for all current 2003 police package vehicles.

crown vics don't go faster then 128 even with the slightly revised engine they received in 2003, and chevy wimpalas are a front wheel drive police car LOL, not much power either.

Some wacky police departments may install superchargers but most do not as there is no need for it, even extreme programming wont make much difference in performance on these cars.

Re: :firehair:
 

to make room for turbo :cool:

So to go past 100 I need turbo? :rolleyes:

As long as you don't redline in fifth (assume you have a manual) at 100 or around it.

You mean my third gear ;) I got auto

It wouldn't hurt :D . Try going downhill, too, lol.

Well no wonder you can't hit 100. But more horsepower never hurts.

Well I can HIT 100 but it stays there forever and it wont go past it.

I guess it's time for a former police officer to step in. I'm not sure what it's like in the States but I'd image it's much the same as here in Canada with some varying degrees but police cars are not supercharged or otherwise. The supsension and other parts have been beefed up but other than that, that's about it. Many of the vehicle run on propane instead of gasoline because of better combustion and throttle response as well as cleaner emmisions. Remember too that yes, they are usually heavey with computers, perhaps a cage and there parts.


As for the govenor in the P5. A friend of mine has been modding his and found a fuse that seems to be the govenor. He pulled it and according to the reading from the GPS the car tops out at about 245km/hr (153mi/hr). I haven't pulled mine yet but she tops out a 198km/hr (123mmi/hr).

Ive got mine to 125 it was doing 5500 rpms it never started cutting off I JUST RAN OUT OF ROAD:wackit:

My car cuts out at 6700 rpm... I think that would make about 130 mph on my car.

I've only taken it to 120mph and then I ran out of road.

I know it cuts off at 6700 rpm because I've actually taken it that far on 4th gear, but not 5th.

Our Proteges are not limited to 155mph simply because there is no need to... they can't get there.