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Hawkeye December-7th-2001 10:12 AM

Do CD-R's work in your P5 CD Player?
 
As you can all see, I'm a newbie here. I have a Silver P5 5-speed. Anyway, I burned a CD of "cruising music", but the CD player won't recognize the CD-R. It will, however, work with regular CD's. Anyone else experience this?

ToMaC December-7th-2001 10:56 AM

Burned CD's do work in the stock CD player. Did you burn the CD correctly? Put it in a different player, other than the one in your computer, like a diskman or boombox and see if it plays; I doubt it will.

rodslinger December-7th-2001 10:57 AM

CDR's
 
They worked fine in mine. Did you 'close' the disc? Is it a CDRW or CDR you are trying to use? Not many cd players recognize a CDRW even when closed unless they are made to read MP3 or DVD. I haven't tried it yet to verify but it wont work in any of my other cars.

Protege5girl December-7th-2001 11:03 AM

CDR works in mine. BUT depending on the quality some won't work in my Sony CD Changer. :dunno:

Hawkeye December-7th-2001 11:38 AM

thanks for the replies. Yes, I closed the CD, and it does work in my home theatre system. I'll burn another one... maybe it's a fluke. :)

douggie December-7th-2001 01:04 PM

Mine would play CDRWs too! But it skips like hell :)

And according to this thread, our stock head units are made by different manufactures, so YMMV.

douggie December-7th-2001 08:13 PM


Originally posted by TheMAN
Do not use CD-RWs on any head unit unless it says it is compatible. CD-RWs have low reflectivity and require higher powered lasers for them to be read properly.
Well, from my experience, if you stick a CD-RW into any player and it plays, it's compatible :) Those non-compatible players won't be able to read the index at all or will say disc error when you load it in.

ZackyFarms16 December-7th-2001 11:08 PM


Originally posted by Gro Harlem
Don't go el-cheapo on the brand name CDR's you buy...that could be the problem. If you buy that special "50 CDRs for $8" then they probably are worthless trash.

I've played a few CDR's in my friends 2001 ES protege. and i found these brands to work good:

Verbatim, any kind
Imation, the red spindle ones 80 mins long
TDK, any kind
Plextor CDR's......came with my burner

I found that it had problems with: ANY memorex, and some sony discs :0/

I would highly disagree. I have the 50 spindles for 8 bucks and they work awesome!!. I have a 12x Iomega burner. They work fine, all my various types of burned cds that are CD-R's, CDRW's dont work. Try to "FInalize the CD", or "Close all Sessions" when burning. You probably didnt burn right? cd quality doesnt matter, it matters for storage when you want the data to last for a long time. Screw quality for cdrws, i have 2 year old so called "cheap" cds that work awesome!

Hawkeye December-7th-2001 11:16 PM

Well, I appreciate the feeback. It must have been a fluke on the last CD, because one I just burned worked fine.

20FS December-8th-2001 06:42 PM

yep CD-R's (both expensive and cheap shit) work in my player as well as CDRW's (only tested memorex 4x CDRW's) they all work flawlessly, haven't tested a store bought cd yet... can't find one

rash_girl December-9th-2001 04:42 AM

screw quality eh?
maybe you should tell that to my deck...
its very picky
only high-class for this baby
;)
and don't even think i don't know how to burn a disk

paulf December-9th-2001 09:24 PM

rash girl
 
this ol' dog finally learned new tricks!
Made a compilation of drivin' tunes on my home computer... it was a piece of cake!

No skipping or anything! I usually download late at night when the k/s rate is 60+... its a snap! And just in time for Christmas!

sunbyrne December-9th-2001 11:12 PM

My P5 plays CDR's just fine, though there is some tendency to skip when I hit bumps in the road.

neuromancer December-10th-2001 01:49 PM

Burning CD's is quirky. There are a lot of factors that effect how well a CD is going to work. I've been burning CDs for about 4 years and have used them on a wide variety of players.

This is what I've noted:

-The media doesn't matter to the player as much as it matters to the writer. So to say brand X is better then brand Y on a particular model of reader is misleading at best. The problem is probably with the burner and the media, not the player and the media. I have a Yamaha burner and I use any media with the expception of Memorex. I buy what is cheapest. There is a program that will read the serial number off the disk and tell you what type of media it is and who makes it. How many companies do you think are out there that make the CDs? Not too many. Don't get fooled by marketing, find the cheapest that works with your writer.

-The software can make a difference. I found I had MUCH better luck with Nero Burning Rom than Adaptec/Roxio EZ-CD Creator. I would suggest anyone out there using the Adaptec product stop immediately and buy Nero. I've also used many others and found Nero to be the best.

-Speed. Speed kills. This is what is going to kill most people especially now that the really fast writers (16X,20X) are released. The faster you burn the less time the laser has to make an impression on the record media. This means that the indent is more shallow and harder for the player to pick up. In my opinion this is leading factor for CDR compatibility. There is also a theory that the quality of duplication is better at lower speeds, especially with lower quality writers. If the audio stream contains errors (or peaks and valley's the reader can't under stand because they are not distinct enough) this may materialize as pops, hisses, poorer sounding audio...this may mean less since most people are using MP3's as source which are already of lower quality.

-The brand of CD Writer. Some are better some are worse. Some writers may require that you burn slower others may not have a problem. I use Plextor and Yamaha exlusively. I've used Ricoh, HP and Panasonic as well and found the Plex. and the Yam. to be more reliable.

I write CDs with Nero using Plextor 12X and a Yamaha 8X writer. I typically write AUDIO cds at 4X and buy the cheapest media possible (Gigastorage!). I have zero problems with either burner. It may take a little more time but I am sure that any of my CD's will work in almost any player.

Bottom line. Find what works for you. But when in doubt try writing slower.

Sorry for the rant :)

Jay

rash_girl December-12th-2001 01:11 AM

rant away
i don't think the big list of rules displayed "no ranting"

so...

if you burn two different brands of cd's on the same burner at the same speed and with the same content, but one cd will work in your deck and the other won't...what would be the logical explanation ?

:dunno:

neuromancer December-12th-2001 01:57 AM


Originally posted by rash_girl
rant away
i don't think the big list of rules displayed "no ranting"

so...

if you burn two different brands of cd's on the same burner at the same speed and with the same content, but one cd will work in your deck and the other won't...what would be the logical explanation ?

:dunno:

One deck is less tolerant of errors...or one is more.

My whole point is that if you run into problems burn it slower. Maybe I should have just stated that from the beginning.

Jay

rash_girl December-15th-2001 01:23 PM

mmhmm

so someone answer the question...
:D

whether my deck is very forgiving or not, i'm using two different brands of cd's and burning them at the same speed, lets say for arguments sake the slowest possible speed, and i'm burning the exact same content onto both cd's...

if one cd won't work in my deck, and the other will...doesn't that mean the brand of the cd does matter?

(summary - one deck, two cd's - brand X & Y, brand X works and brand Y doesn't, cd's were burned at same speed and contain same content)

p.s. - coles notes are available upon request

neuromancer December-15th-2001 02:07 PM


Originally posted by rash_girl
mmhmm

so someone answer the question...
:D

whether my deck is very forgiving or not, i'm using two different brands of cd's and burning them at the same speed, lets say for arguments sake the slowest possible speed, and i'm burning the exact same content onto both cd's...

if one cd won't work in my deck, and the other will...doesn't that mean the brand of the cd does matter?

(summary - one deck, two cd's - brand X & Y, brand X works and brand Y doesn't, cd's were burned at same speed and contain same content)

p.s. - coles notes are available upon request

Well in that case then the brand of CD would probably make a difference. Are you having this problem? It's simple, stop using that brand of CD I guess.

Jay

rash_girl December-17th-2001 03:07 AM

yes, had the problem and stopped using certain brands of cd's...

there was an opinion earlier in this discussion that cd brands do not matter, and i don't agree

....which is where the word problem came into play

anyways, i'm right so it all doesn't matter really

happy holidays

:bounce:

talon4x4 December-19th-2001 09:58 AM

I've been using some generic brand CD I got at CompUSA and using Nero (came with the LiteON burner) to convert my MP3s to CD audio and then burn. I have no problems whatsoever. Thats burning at 24x too!!!

Joe_Pro5 December-20th-2001 06:45 PM

The only thing I've noticed is that when you burn at faster speeds, it seems to skip a little bit easier. Lower speeds (6x or slower) give me no problems at all with any brand I've tried.

:cool:

znole December-20th-2001 09:42 PM

my stock dc player plays cd-r that i've made (wave format). it sounds pretty good. surprisingly, it also plays cd-r that's in mp3 format. alright, no more file conversions from mp3 to wave. excellent! :blue:

00-pro-lx, touring pkg., 5-speed, tints, fogs, clear lights, lowered, meshes, alum. int., & more, spicy looking.

zoltan December-21st-2001 09:31 AM

WORKS Like a charm
 
I use el-cheapos...the key is in the speed you burn at, if you burn WAV files on at high speeds, you are a high risk of the disc not working at all, or skipping. Burn at 2 or 4x and you should be fine. All mp3s I have ripped to CD are working just great in my factory deck.

mnkyboy December-21st-2001 05:51 PM

Re: WORKS Like a charm
 

Originally posted by zoltan
I use el-cheapos...the key is in the speed you burn at, if you burn WAV files on at high speeds, you are a high risk of the disc not working at all, or skipping. Burn at 2 or 4x and you should be fine. All mp3s I have ripped to CD are working just great in my factory deck.
Hmm, I have to disagree with you. The speed of the burn doesnt effect the outcome of the quality of the cd. If your computer cannot burn the cd at 12x correctly, then the cd will NOT work in any cd player. Ive burned well over 350+ cds, and I have never had a problem with some working in one player and not another. I have had some el cheapo cds (the ones that are 100 for $10 bucks) and those suck big time...DONT USE :D . TDKs are the best cdrs in my book, and my TDK burner is the best burner I have ever used.

What kind of cd burner are you using? If you by a cheap brand like Digital Research, then your burner may be at fault.

So far my 6-disc dash unit has played every cdr that I have tried, and most of my cdrs are TDK and black Memorex.

If anyone is looking to buy a cd burner, make sure you buy one with Burnproof or JustLink technology.

Hope this helps...


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