Comparisons and fuel economy.
 

I was wondering how many kilometers you guys get with 47L of fuel. (I'm from Canada). Before I installed my intake, I only got 320km. But now after the installation of the Ractive intake a dramatically increased 470km.
I know after I mention the name Ractive, people will criticize it as a cheap, incompetent alternative product to AEM, Injen, etc. While no one is stoping them, I must say that the Ractive intake is not that bad. It gets me increased fuel economy, better throttle response, a decent growl, quiet at low rpms, and more power. I'm not a riceby defender, if anyone preceives me as one, I'm just trying to bring awareness that Ractive's products are not garbage compared to other brands. Maybe it's because of they're cheap price that gives them a negative image or maybe because many riceboys use them.
But take a look at the Protege 5, which some people says its inferior because it IS made by Mazda, like a intake IS made by Ractive. Some people I know ridicule the Protege 5, and saying what is a Protege 5? or it's only a f&*&ing Mazda. But just because it sells for less than a Corolla or Civic doesn't mean its worse. In my opinion it's better. Does Corolla or Civic have standard 16 inch rims; a 2.0L engine; a tightened suspension; a nice looking interior; a bodykit; large foglights; and rear discs? No they don't. I don't care if people say the Protege 5 is garbage, and it IS only a Mazda. The fact is I got a better buy, and they didn't and it makes me feel good inside again everytime. Long live Proteges!(and Ractive hehehe....).:D

I guess obviously, most of us "southerners" weren't willing to do the math to give you any comparisons. ;)

Don

So far my car is bone stock and I get about 530km to 47 litres of fuel. I will be adding an intake soon. Maybe my economy will increase over the 600km mark? I think I'm going to go with the short ram AEM. I've never heard of Ractive and the Injen is a cold air intake which I don't want. Where is the Ractive made? I know the AEM is made in the USA. I bought the protege5 over a civic, it's sportier and has more bang for the buck. Who cares what other people think of your car, as long as you like it. All my bonehead friends drive overpriced trucks and don't understand what the sport compact car thing is all about. I need new friends.

Mine holds 14.5 gallons, so I guess that's 55 liters.

Don

The MP5 holds 55 litres. 47 litres is at what point the low fuel light comes on or the gauge is on empty. Either way it seems to be the point when it's time to fuel up.

fuel economy
 

I get about 560 outta 47L of fuel~ but I usually drive at the optimum speed (80km @ 2000rpm) and rarely get on the brakes (hehe~ lucky me...not getting busted by the cops)

after the Ractive intake...I get slightly worse fuel mileage...mainly due to the fact that I stump on the gas more to hear the "swoosh"

I dont get why ppl diss the Ractive intake...in Canada, where the climate is much colder than the likes of LA and California...there's really no point to get the Injen CAI...and for those who drive AT Pro5's...the AEM will be shitty, cuz it's close to the AT box, sucking in hot ambient air near the AT box

besides...for the Ractive intake, you can fit a RAM AIR tube (just get those aluminum tubes found in any hardware store) to the hole below the coolant reservoir (just relocate the coolant reservoir...simple nuts and bolts) and point the tube to the Ractive intake

That beats having the Injen CAI without having have to worry about sucking in water in puddles (hey...that shit happens a lot in Richmond)

and beats the AEM, price wise, cuz you can also fit a ram air tube from below the car to the AEM

costing more isn't aways equal to better products~ DIY rulez!!!

hey SJDMP5~ trucks aren't all bad!

the new lines of trucks are quite awesome actually!

the new TrailBlazer, Jeep Liberty and the mighty Chevy Avalanche are pretty awesome machines...but I would never wanna drive a truck...unless one day I'm towing a race prep Protege5 to the tracks~ hahaha~

They had thing about the new Jeep Liberty on CNN the other day. The slalom driver (who's run all the slalom tests for CD for many years) managed to get the Liberty upside down during the test, without even trying - Wasn't a pretty sight.

Don

err...slalom with a Jeep Liberty which has high centre of gravity?
I mean...I know that they do it with every car they get hold of...but racing a SUV through a slalom course is just not rite :p

trucks of the likes of TrailBlazer, Liberty and Avalance belong to rugged outbacks...

only those 1/2 breed SUVs are good on the streets...RX300, Explorer, RAV4, CR-V...etc~ those things can handle the slalom no problem...but put them through the back country and by the end of the day, you'll be looking at expensive suspension repairs!

hmm...off topic...haha~:eek:

Hey, those of you with the Ractive intake. Do you hear a loud suction sound "shruuuuuush" when you turn off the engine?

I don't hate trucks. My project is a 65 GMC shortbox fleetside that's getting the resto-rod treatment. My problem is what they charge for these trucks, now they market them and most of the people that drive them. I don't mind the trailblazer, I love the new I6 engine. I don't mind the liberty, but am concerned about that slalom thing. The reason they run them through the high speed slalom is to test how they react during an emergency. I absolutley loathe the avalanche! Will GM please stop putting cladding on everything! The worst part is the price. I would have a 330CI or IS300 (or hopefully a Mazda 6) in my driveway before I would spend $60,000 on a piece of junk such as the avalanche. While I'm ranting the other thing that I hate is black mirrors and/or door handles on cars. It makes a car look cheap. Automakers spend a few cents and paint them body colour!

yep~ big swoosh sound with the Ractive intake when shutting the engine off...

doesn't that happen with AEM and Injen as well???

I'm not too fond of the Avalanche either. Why not just buy a regular GMC crew cab and skip the stupid "Midgate". You get less cheap plastic crap that way. As for the Trailblazer I like the I6 too. I just noticed that it gets similar fuel economy and power to the V8 engines available on the competitors. With fuel economy being one of the reasons to stay away from a V8 I think it was kind of stupid on GMC's part to over-engineer a I6 instead of underengineering a V8. As for the halflings they are not so bad. But because of people driving those things alone on the freeway my city has just instituted a nice 55 mph speed limit on all the freeways. Texas just needs an extra SUV polluting jerk tax on each of those and should raise the speed limit for all of the ULEV vehicles. Then there should be a higher speeding ticket for anyone driving anything with crappy gas mileage. Maybe that would make those people think twice.

man, a truck is almost a requirement... how else are ya gonna tow your stuff to track days and haul mulch around? just get the biggest v6 (please get a v8 if you get a full sizer) and 4wd and 5spd for the fun part... i doubt you'll ever haul manure in your p5... or stick some grundgy mtnbikes in it... potholes are no problem as is lite-offroading... parking lots to trail heads and driving on the beach! trucks rule! but to each his own...

next car... p5 or a ford ranger... :D

when i say take a truck to a track day, i mean by towing it! slalom on a liberty is like taking my dx off-roading!

Ive got a 1.6 litre 2000 model protege, ive got CAI and Ive got a uni filter, plus i use premium fuel plus octane booster altogether my octane rating in the fuel i use is 00.... i get 670kms (dont ask me how many miles that is) out of a 47 litre tank that is on the high way with the air con on. Since i put the unifilter on i have noticed i get another 30-40 kms out of it.. plus aswell i get more power, also i dont know if the muffler i got on does it any better either.....

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sorry i didn't answer your question... a bit wiped... .skool ya know...

i get about 35mi/gal... someitmes more for big trips, someitmes less for more short hops. 32-35 is about typical

I get 11km/L. I usually fill up 46L and I already have around 510km on the trip meter.

I got 608 KM on my last 54L that i filled up, yes i drove at least another 20-30Km with the fuel light on.. but that's still pretty good.

I did find out that i used to only get 500-515 km when i had my air vents set at defrost, defrost/foot, foot position (the a/c compressor turns on even tho the light is off). but now i just set it at foot/front and just front (ac won't turn on) and i get significantly MORE mileage.

I also have an Ractive intake.

350km with 1 quarter tank left so I should be getter 450km... my car is 2200kms old.

P

I get 540 with 47 liters. That's alright ain't it? I have no intake. It's all stock.

All you guys that are only getting 550-600 kms out of your car tell me what your doin wrong, im getting 650-670 out of me mazda with 00 octane rating fuel and a simple UNI-FILTER, you guys must be running 93 octane and have a standard filter....... the fuel i guess is more expensive but it it sits on the highway better and it idiles better hehehe

Those of you that are running high octane gas on a low compression, naturally asperated engine, don't understand the meaning of the octane numbers.

The higher the octane, the slower it burns. This is to keep from knocking/pinging from detonation. This is a problem with either high compression or boosted motors.

Lower octane will burn faster and more complete in an N/A motor like which comes in our cars from the factory. You will have more unburned fuel exiting the engine with a high octane gasoline.

Unless you have changed the timing, compression or added a power adder of some sort, stick with the low octane. You'll get better mileage, more HP and keep a little extra change in your pocket.

Just make sure you use a good brand gas and you should have no problems. I don't know about Australia, but the US has very strict standards for even the lowest of octanes.

ive pushed my p5 (55L Tank) to around 580kms on a full tank, when i filled up i still have 5L in the tank so im assumeing 11.6KM/L so that means i still coulda gone 58KMS. So total trip (runing down to vapor) 638KMS. this is city kms BTW

engine mods that could/would affect the millage are

Sparkco wires
InJen CAI
Catback exhaust 2.25" with an Apexi N1
(dunno if this changed it at all) Hyperground wires

i usually rev to 3.5 and a couple times to 5 everyday

How is this for fuel economy
 

OK. First off, this is my first post on this site. Nice to belong to a like-minded group :cheers:. Now, I own a 1999 Protege SE. I too live in Canada. I know that my car only has a 1.6 litre, but listen to my mileage. I commute to work from north of Toronto, Ontario to the downtown core every day (65 km one way). My trip is 95% highway travel, usually in traffic, but some of it is open smooth driving. I don't have the opportunity to stay in 5th gear for too long. I have been recording 700 km per tank of regular unleaded fuel. My highest recorded tank, earned on a drive from Montreal to Toronto was 739 km.

I used to own a Honda Civic SI and I never achieved mileage as high as I am with my Protege. Hint: If you do a lot of highway travel, you can still squeeze an additional 70-90 km from the time your fuel light comes on. I do it often. Nothing gives me more pleasure than beating "the man" at the pump. :p

If it means anything, I am purchasing a P5 this week. I'll keep you posted.

Go Leafs Go!!!

OK. I don't get it. Montreal? 'Go Leafs Go'? Location: Victoria? I'm confused. Help.

Re: How is this for fuel economy
 

to get 739 k's did you pump your tyres to 60 PSI or some thing

Well, I do a lot of highway travel. Also, I am a slow driver, right lane (in North America), 5th gear kind-of-guy. Usually I cruise around 105 km/h. I almost never stretxh my gears out except to pass. Add to this that I have 1.6 litre engine, without an air conditioner and you can see why I have such great fuel consumption.

However, in town driving is a different animal. I average around 500-530 km. What about you? What is your best mileage?

Ciao for now,

--leafsboy

yer i usually get around 500 around town, i also have a 1.6L but i gave an air con, that must take yp a bit of fuel... id rather pay a little bit more for fuel for the air con he he

bone stock manual using regular 87octane gas.
I get an average of 8.5L/100km this is mixed city highway driving.
(yea I keep a spreadsheet of my gas milage. This average is from about 1 year)

I get anywhere from 550-600km when the light comes on (normal non spirited driving).

I can get about 630km out of a tank. The warning light comes on at 47L (580km) and I can get another 50km before I panic and fill up. Even then there is 4 to 5L left in the tank. I do mostly highway driving and keep my speed around 120km/h. If I go faster I find the fuel economy really starts to go downhill. I use 91 octane fuel because I do notice a difference between it and 87 octane fuel. I get a little better economy and throttle response.

Driving with your tank below a 1/4 of a tank is REALLY bad for your fuel pump guys. Keep that in mind when it cathes fire and explodes.

dude i drive around with $5 of fuel in my car most of the time(exept on long trips on the highway and when ever i get money to put it in. i find the car goes alot faster when the fuel tank is nearly empty.. i have never heard a fuel tank catching on fire because of there being lack of fuel... probably in a drag car when its doin a huge burn out and the fuel line catches on fire, and there is alot of vapour in the tank, but man these are protege's...

I live in US, so miles/gallons here. On my first two tankfuls (around 12.5 gals each), I got about 23.5mpg. This was 30% city driving, 70% busy highway driving around 65 to 80mph.

Last weekend, I put 870 miles on my car going up to Maine and back, and I got around 26-27mpg with 90% highway driving around 80mph.

I used cruise control a lot last weekend, so I can't help but think that the mileage difference is because cruise control drove smoother/most efficiently? (automatic tranny here)

Another thing is that it could be that my first two tankfuls were during the break-in period, which could be less efficient? I just refueled today and I am looking at a week or so of 30% city 70% highway driving (commuting to work) again, so I'm curious to see whether my mileage is gonna go back to 23-24mpg.