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Omron November-20th-2004 02:51 PM

Borla Cat-Back Exhaust System
 
Who else (brands) uses T-304 stainless steel and gives a warrenty similar to Borlas? 1 million miles?

The 2 orders is placed and the Borla system is on its way :)

It will be installed on a stock 2001 protege ES (134 hp)
and a intake/ECU flashed 2001 protege ES (142 hp)
both will be dynoed for performance gains

Anyone wanna give me any personal experience with Borla?

surprisingly we got them at a hell of a deal so I am trying to see if its worth all the proformance hype from the import mags.

Anyone?

Roddimus Prime November-20th-2004 06:10 PM

where are you getting those power claims from? That can't be WHP....I've seen HEAVILY modifed 2.0Ls only making 120-130whp.

p.s. Borla is very nice. I hope to order the catback for my wife's new 3S

Omron November-21st-2004 01:46 PM

Your right Rod, its not wheel horse power, this calculation was made by a dyno / ECU (output) software projection designed by a friend at mazda japan, I somewhat refered to this before when we were benchmarking the proteges for the spark plug tests. "Typical driveline efficiencies are quoted between 80 and 85% for the average vehicle so this is a flywheel"

but i will post the actually regular dyno whp results.

but about the borla, would you say they are the in the elite top ranks of cat backs?

stefan November-23rd-2004 03:04 PM

I really like them--AFAIK I thought they also made the Mazdaspeed ones. I hope to get one for my P5 but can't find a Borla.

Omron November-23rd-2004 05:50 PM

call borla, inquire about the mounting points ofthe P5, see if there is some leyway ?

who knows, I knwo they have a Mazda 3 version now

stefan November-24th-2004 07:19 PM

If they have a mazda 3 sport version..there must be a way to get it on a P5 without TOO much modification

Omron November-24th-2004 09:21 PM

well I was thinkin a direct port from the Sedan version would be enough, plus i think the Mazda 3 has the exhaust on the left side tail end. not the right.

but I am sure the mazda p5 and the sedan match up?

FocalFlareES November-24th-2004 11:12 PM

I have the borla cat-back exhaust system on my MP3 and i love it. at first i was skeptical b/c it did not have the sound i was wanting. however after about 100 miles or so the exhaust system broke into it's nice rumble. I love it b/c it does give it an extra ommmfff but as far as a number i couldn't tell you. but there is a definate power gain. It almost looks stock (3" exhaust tip) but the piping was the same as my old exhaust system 2 1/4" but it breaths better hence more power. I definatly recommend the borla. as far as any other it would have to be magnaflow cat-back or the mazdaspeed cat-back. both of which are stainless steel however no one out there has the million mile gaurantee. I hope that helps you brotha.

Omron November-27th-2004 09:44 PM

hey Focal how hard of a time did you have ripping the stock system off , vs installing the borla? did you do it yourself?

FocalFlareES November-28th-2004 01:34 PM

it really wasn't that difficult. The only problem I had was when I removed the Racing Beat Exhaust. I wanted to keep it in tact so I used a Whizz Wheel to cut it right before the joint to the Axle Back. Installing took like 15 mins. <<NOTE: When installing the exhaust be sure to put NEVER (ANTI) SEAZE on the bolts. It also helps to use some type of cutting tool (Pnumatic or otherwise).>> Other than that it was a total of 2.30 hrs. It took me longer b/c the bolts were rusted on it and My buddy forgot he had the Whizz Wheel so I was using a Hack Saw until he remembered. But if you have an air powered saw or electric probably 1hr or so.

Omron November-30th-2004 02:36 PM

is it true this kit will only work with 2001? I have been asking around and every vendor says 2001 only,

are the mounting points any different on the later models

Roddimus Prime November-30th-2004 03:11 PM

nope, all the same....only difference is the MSP and P5.

Omron November-30th-2004 04:03 PM

funny almost all the websites out there with the protege borla is only saying 2001 only, I swear they are shooting themselves inthe foot by making would be customers think twice.

Well anyways, I am going to havefun ripping off this old stock pipe, damn son of a bitch is got some battle damage (crack in the main pipe)


I am not an expert, but with this borla brand help throughout the rev range or will there be a top or lower end benefit?

anyone know where I am coming from?

lol
I am drunk right now bythe way

just sold my mutual funds and made 345% lol

Going out to get laid, lol (am I allowed to say that in the forum) FCC beware

Roddimus Prime November-30th-2004 04:05 PM

hhha for a 345% profitt you can tell everyone you're getting laid!


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